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17th April 13, 05:58 AM
#31
 Originally Posted by Tobus
It doesn't say you can't sell an existing kilt in this tartan, though.
So sell it to an American. Heck, an American might pay more for it if it's "restricted". Include the letter from Buckingham palace, as proof. Americans love that kind of stuff. Double your money!
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17th April 13, 06:37 AM
#32
Without a photo of the kilt in question, I can't say if it's the same tartan, but I ran across theseimages online:


Last edited by ShaunMaxwell; 17th April 13 at 06:58 AM.
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17th April 13, 06:46 AM
#33
 Originally Posted by kilted scholar
A possible explanation occurs to me. The King George VI tartan (STA 5845) is very similar to the Princess Mary tartan (STA 5449), which is associated with the Royal Family but is in regular unrestricted production. Both have been known as Green Stewart and differ only in the size of the white stripe.
It may be possible that the tartan was misrepresented by the seller on ebay through ignorance. However, against this is the point that the Princess Mary is associated more with women's items. Without a clear close sighting of the tartan we are taking the word of the seller.
That was EXACTLY why I was asking for a picture of the cloth of the kilt. The 2 tartans are very similar...
Princess Mary:

King George VI (aka Green Stewart):

The differences are VERY subtle...
1. The size of the white line is a bit bigger in the KG6
2. The spacing of the red in the center (on either side of the black lines) is different.
3. The size of the blue looks to be a bit smaller in the KG6.
4. The field of green looks to be a bit smaller in the KG6
Last edited by RockyR; 17th April 13 at 06:50 AM.
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17th April 13, 06:52 AM
#34
 Originally Posted by RockyR
That was EXACTLY why I was asking for a picture of the cloth of the kilt. The 2 tartans are very similar...
Princess Mary:
King George VI (aka Green Stewart):
The differences are VERY subtle...
1. The size of the white line is a bit bigger in the KG6
2. The spacing of the red in the center (on either side of the black lines) is different.
3. The size of the blue looks to be a bit smaller in the KG6.
4. The field of green looks to be a bit smaller in the KG6
Well done, Rocky. From a distance, I'm sure both tartans would look very similar.
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17th April 13, 06:55 AM
#35
 Originally Posted by ShaunMaxwell
Without a photo of the kilt in question, I can't say if it's the same tartan, but I ran across this image online:

It appears that it just might be, Shaun. Note the larger fields of green. Quite a striking and beautiful sett, I must say. I rather like it better than the Hunting Stewart, which is also a popular tartan in which HRH Prince Charles can be seen wearing from time to time in Scotland. Particularly at Braemar (see below).
Last edited by creagdhubh; 17th April 13 at 06:58 AM.
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17th April 13, 07:43 AM
#36
So, A Robertson, I would recommend the following.
1) Take a photo of the tartan and post it so we can determine that you (or the vendor) have, in fact, correctly identified the tartan.
2) If it turns out to be in the restricted King George VI tartan, hang on to it and try to find out more about its provenance. Who participated in a Royal Wedding that's your size? Was it made for HRH Prince Charles, Duke of Rothsay or someone in his employ? It may, in fact, be that this kilt is worth a great deal but I'd do a little homework before flipping it.
3) Assuming KGVI tartan, don't wear it. You know better. Parading around pretending to be a Royal is in very bad taste, especially considering where you reside.
4) Before selling it, I'd try some further correspondance with Buckingham palace. If just purchasing a new kilt would be a financial hardship, I'd put that in a letter along with the measurements and humbly suggest a barter for an unrestricted kilt in the same size. This would return the kilt to royal hands rather than risking it being worn if sold on the open market and leave you with an heirloom, wearable kilt complete with correspondance records from Buckingham palace documenting the transaction. It would be a very cool thing for you and your progeny to possess. It may not work, but a custom 8 yard kilt in your tartan as a reward for your classy approach to the aquisition is not outside the realm of possibilities.
5) If they blow you off and you can't find out any more details about the history of the garment in question, sell it and buy another one with the cash. This is the least attractive option to me because you've so far handled this like a gentleman.
Last edited by Nathan; 17th April 13 at 07:44 AM.
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Past High Commissioner, Clan Donald Canada
“Yet still the blood is strong, the heart is Highland, And we, in dreams, behold the Hebrides.” - The Canadian Boat Song.
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17th April 13, 07:44 AM
#37
 Originally Posted by creagdhubh
It appears that it just might be, Shaun. Note the larger fields of green. Quite a striking and beautiful sett, I must say. I rather like it better than the Hunting Stewart, which is also a popular tartan in which HRH Prince Charles can be seen wearing from time to time in Scotland. Particularly at Braemar (see below).

I don't know which tartan HRH is wearing in that last photo, Kyle, but it isn't Hunting Stewart.
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17th April 13, 07:57 AM
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Last edited by creagdhubh; 17th April 13 at 07:58 AM.
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17th April 13, 09:51 AM
#39
I think this is GREAT!!! I would kill to have a restricted tartan with the paperwork to prove it. If I were you I would have it cleaned boxed etc... and keep it for bragging rights or list it for about a year and see what happens. You might make a pretty penny off of it. If you cannot "unload it" for a profit then donate it for tax credits at the end of the year. But I amd sorry I would not ask if Her Majesty would like it back because then it will be a yes and no maney will change hands.... If you like you can always let me know your asking price, I just might send you the cash.
LOCH SLOY!
Cheers, Wil
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17th April 13, 10:19 AM
#40
 Originally Posted by creagdhubh
Yes, it is mate...look just at the sett a wee bit closer. It appears that HRH's kilt may be woven in the 'ancient' colour scheme, or perhaps a shade or two lighter than the much darker 'modern' colours.
Cheers,
I am sorry this has nothing to do with the conversation of HRH tartan. But isn't this pic funny? It's a crazy lot, look at the poor lady behind the Duchess of Cornwall, that lady's face is all askew and looks as if she might have a mouth full of lemons. Then we have the gentleman behind the Earl of Caithness, this mans seems to be a little taken aback by something and why is His Grace posing for a different picture and looking off to the right or eveyone else? An not to mention the man staning behind HRH with the sunglasses on..... I am sorry I just find the picture very amusing.
LOCH SLOY!
Cheers, Wil
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