Traditonal vs. Historical

[Downunder Kilt]

I think you will find the the M in MUGs stands for male or mens, first time I've heard it referred to as modern

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There are also MUGs - Modern Unbifercated Garments, these are the usually non-tartan cargo pocketed Utilikilt style.

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[Hopper250]

I think you will find the the M in MUGs stands for male or mens, first time I've heard it referred to as modern

Just a typo.

[adempsey10]

Well Robert,

There are people who wear THCD - Traditional Highland Civilian Dress, as always,

There are also MUGs - Modern Unbifercated Garments, these are the usually non-tartan cargo pocketed Utilikilt style.

But if I were to wear a MacQueen Kilt from Rocky or Steve or Matt, but had my shirt untucked, a nylon sporron and sandals, I'm neither of those. What I am doing is wearing a Modern style with a kilt. So in our discussion it became Modern Kilted Attire in Tartan - MKAT. I would say any registered tartan worn like this would qualify.

But I suppose a MUG could also be a male skirt without pleats...

[Hopper250]

But I suppose a MUG could also be a male skirt without pleats...

Yes, much as the other thread where there was mention of men wearing kilts without pleats.

[Downunder Kilt]

Then a garment as such is not a KILT, by any stretch of the imagination, and should not be discussed on this forum

Yes, much as the other thread where there was mention of men wearing kilts without pleats.

[Father Bill]

It's a Mirt!

[rondo]

Excellent discussion everyone. It appears there are as many ways to wear a kilt as there are to build one. If only there were a webmaster with some spare time to help start a Kilt Wiki, we'd have somewhere for new members to go to answer their questions and appropriate space for the various finer points. Then they'd enter the forums "at pace" so to speak and the level of conversation could be raised.

It was my understanding that this is what the "One kilt, ten looks" thread tried to capture. That thread is a sticky and a great read for those just starting out...IMHO.
Rondo

[TheOfficialBren]

Nathan, plus one about the heritage point. As a member of the diaspora I find it to be an entirely enjoyable and meaningful portion of the Scottish aspect of my own cultural heritage.

ADempsey10, respectfully submitted, it sometimes seems like you trivialise the cultural aspect of kilt-wearing in your posts (in this thread and others). I mean no disrespect but please be mindful that what is insignificant to you is quite significant to others. The cultural aspect of the kilt is utterly inseperable from the kilt, indeed, it defines the garment and its accoutrements.

Rondo, plus one, my friend.

David Thorpe, a Kyleism to you! Therein lies a good portion of the rub. "1 kilt, 10 looks."

The very heart of the issue is that to the newbie and the layman "contemporary" implies MUGs. Plain and simple. When I hear "contemporary" the first image in my head is a man-skirt, like a Utilikilt...not a tartan kilt in the traditional vain.
"Modern" sounds okay but still sounds like trying to repurpose the garment, although, in truth, this is probably the most accurate term.

Next, we have the whole "how it's done...my way or the highway" posturing that comes and goes. That right there is utter horse pucky and you folks who denigrate others are only doing it because you have nothing better to do.

In conclusion, we are each entitled (yes, entitled) to dress as we see fit...however we should be considerate of others and be mindful that each of us have opinions on this and other subjects.

In the words of the great philosopher Jim Jeffries, "we're not animals--we live in a society."

[The Wizard of BC]

Folks,

MUG stands for Male Unbifurcated Garment. This was coined by Steven Villegas of Utilikilts to describe his product. If you use this acronym, this is what people will understand you to have meant. This is a very specific garment.

The word Contemporary was coined by me to describe my product. A modern kilt that still retains the internal structure needed for good looks, swish and life. Contemporary refers to how the kilt is made, not the fabric it is made from. Contemporary refers to an evolution from the traditional made kilt.

We have had a lot of misunderstanding and mis-use of terms in this thread already. Some have used the word 'traditional' when they actually mean 'retro' or 'period'.
Some have offered their own personal definitions of terms.

The only way to avoid further misunderstanding is to take a little care about how we chose and use our words.

[BCAC]

Just a typo.

IMNSHO, not a typo. A typo is like when you type "Unbifercated" instead of "Unbifurcated".

Typing "Modern" instead of "Male" (a totally different word) is not a typing error.