I did mean 4 yds, I was listening to someone on the radio talking about ounces and of course my mind not being as well oiled as it was when I was much younger, I couldn't seperate the two. I did remember later however and was not able to access a computer so the ounces stayed. Oh well at least Graham got a kick out of it. (What we don't do to amuse the poor guy)

Miah if you are going to go up Gray's you might as well include Torrey's since they are next to each other.