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    It doesn't LOOK like horsehair in the traditional sense, it looks like hair-on HIDE (rather than hair that has been sewn in place).

    I've seen something similar (not identical) in a painting... let me dig through my files to see if I can pull it up again.

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    I haven't found the painting yet, but oddly enough I did just stumble across this on ebay- showing a Gordon's Officer with what appears to be an identical piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artificer View Post
    It doesn't LOOK like horsehair in the traditional sense, it looks like hair-on HIDE (rather than hair that has been sewn in place).

    I've seen something similar (not identical) in a painting... let me dig through my files to see if I can pull it up again.

    ith:


    EDIT:

    I haven't found the painting yet, but oddly enough I did just stumble across this on ebay- showing a Gordon's Officer with what appears to be an identical piece.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    Wow! It sure is, Scott.

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    I still haven't found the particular painting I'm looking for (I've got some rather large folders)

    But I did locate a few more images that verify the basic style across multiple Highland Regiments

    From a wargaming site
    , a 42nd Reg (Black Watch) :

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    Another 42nd Officer
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    on eBay this bookplate
    shows an officer with a metal cantle, but the OR on the right has a sporran with a similar design to the one posted by figheadair. Both from the 84th.



    a painting from the Battle of Waterloo
    showing similar sporrans worn

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    from Wikipedia, a painting showing the Battle of Quartre Bras, note the Black Watch officer in the center with the raised arm. He appears to be wearing a similar sporran.


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    Well there you go and what a coincidence. If that wasn't coincidence enough have a look at this which is possible the portrait mentioned. It appears that that was the 92nd sporran style in the early 1800s and so possibly, probably?, the original style for the regiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    Well there you go and what a coincidence. If that wasn't coincidence enough have a look at this which is possible the portrait mentioned. It appears that that was the 92nd sporran style in the early 1800s and so possibly, probably?, the original style for the regiment.
    Very intriguing!

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    Thanks for posting those great pics. My friends who reenact 42nd Highlander 1815 did research on the sporrans and that looks correct. They were made from goat hair, some regiments used white, some gray. I have a gray goat hair coat from the 70's that I kept to make military sporrans with. It is same color as the 92nd one. This is a photo of the 42nd reproduction sporran that they made last year. Click image for larger version. 

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    figheadair might recognize the tartan cloth in the photo's kilt as he made it. At this time sporrans were for dress uniforms and not known to be worn in battle. Many of the paintings of Waterloo were painted 1830's to 1850's and the artists used the current uniforms of their times like the horsehair sporrans in the Quartre Bras painting .
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.S.Buff View Post
    figheadair might recognize the tartan cloth in the photo's kilt as he made it. At this time sporrans were for dress uniforms and not known to be worn in battle. Many of the paintings of Waterloo were painted 1830's to 1850's and the artists used the current uniforms of their times like the horsehair sporrans in the Quartre Bras painting .
    I did indeed. Looking good and so much nicer in Wilsons' shades.
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    Yes the sporrans of the early 19th century hadn't yet got very long. The goathair got longer in the 1820s and 30s and by the 1840s the sporrans began to look more or less like the horsehair sporrans of today.

    The horsehair, when added, simply augmented the goathair body underneath. Even horsehair sporrans made up until fairly recently still had a goathair front to the body, with horsehair sewn on to create added layers on top.



    My various vintage catalogues from the 1920s offer both long horsehair and goathair sporrans and in the photos the two look fairly similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.S.Buff View Post
    Thanks for posting those great pics. My friends who reenact 42nd Highlander 1815 did research on the sporrans and that looks correct. They were made from goat hair, some regiments used white, some gray. I have a gray goat hair coat from the 70's that I kept to make military sporrans with. It is same color as the 92nd one. This is a photo of the 42nd reproduction sporran that they made last year. Click image for larger version. 

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    figheadair might recognize the tartan cloth in the photo's kilt as he made it. At this time sporrans were for dress uniforms and not known to be worn in battle. Many of the paintings of Waterloo were painted 1830's to 1850's and the artists used the current uniforms of their times like the horsehair sporrans in the Quartre Bras painting .
    Very well done!

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