Hey Colin, thank you for using me as the "guinea pig". That is not the best picture of my Bear 8(12) yard Royal Stewart, but it does show how when a time and skill are both used a very nice pleating job with PV looks great. You can barly see the pleats in the Kilt because they are all so prefectly placed and stiched, but when this kilt gets swinging it's a thing of beauty! As for the rest of my PV Kilts(all of which are from Bear) I have never had any issues with the pleating, they are all beautiful. As for the length of time I had to wait for the Kilt, well lets just say we all fall victim to long wait but it's well worth ever minute of it!