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4th November 14, 04:19 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by bwat
Surely I'm not alone in thinking that the wearing of a utility kilt is a much bolder statement than the wearing a traditional tartan kilt.
Yes, I'm sure that many would agree with you.
I think that most people consider wearing either sort of kilt to be bold 
Personally, I see them both as bold in perhaps different ways. To me, the utility kilt tends to more "rough and tumble" while having more reserved or subdued colors, and the tartan tends to more refined or finer dress while having more striking colors.
I wouldn't wear my utility kilt with a Prince Charlie jacket, and I wouldn't wear my wool Geoffrey Tailor for a run in the mud. In between those two ends of the spectrum, there is a lot of overlap.
So perhaps in a casual situation where all the "Saxons" are wearing blue jeans or casual plain-colored pants, the utility kilt may blend in a little more, while the tartan kilt standing out a little more prominently, thus being bold in that context.
And in another situation where the refined gentlemen are wearing tartan kilts and Argyll day jackets (or the Saxons are wearing suits and expecting the Scots to look THCD), the utility kilt with T-shirt and big boots is going to stand out, thus being bold in that context.
It's a lot about context in my opinion.
Last edited by Grunthos; 4th November 14 at 04:20 PM.
Reason: fix minor typo
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5th November 14, 12:06 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Grunthos
I think that most people consider wearing either sort of kilt to be bold 
I was thinking more along the lines that if you walk down the main street in a random town in the developed world in a tartan kilt then you'll be classified as a kilt wearer. Do the same thing in a utility kilt and the reaction is probably going to be quite different.
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5th November 14, 08:52 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by bwat
I was thinking more along the lines that if you walk down the main street in a random town in the developed world in a tartan kilt then you'll be classified as a kilt wearer.
Ah, I see. I would agree that is indeed the case usually, but not universally. A quick search for "skirt" on XMarks shows how often it isn't the case. (Or see "falda ecosse"; I may be bold in some situations but not bold enough to tell the Spaniards they aren't in the developed world )
Do the same thing in a utility kilt and the reaction is probably going to be quite different.
One of the contexts I mention in my earlier reply would perhaps be "region". In much of the western United States, particularly urban areas, utility kilts are much more common as every-day clothes than tartan kilts. Seattle Washington is home to Utilitkilts; Portland Oregon is home to Stumptown kilts; I believe UTKilts is in Utah. I've seen similar comments about utility kilts being seen "in the wild" as everyday clothes in Phoenix Arizona, but not traditional tartan kilts, or other notes that guys in this region get good comments when they wear tartan, but go unnoticed in a utility kilt. These aren't coincidences I think, but reflections of regional taste/styles. (For better or for worse, in Silicon Valley, "business casual" does include denim blue jeans.)
Of course, anyone is free to their own opinion about how well the western US fits the definition of "developed world" also... 
And I hope I don't sound like I am arguing. This is an interesting conversation; I enjoy reading about everyone's different experiences. Thanks for the input!
Last edited by Grunthos; 5th November 14 at 09:04 AM.
Reason: see also falda ecosse
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5th November 14, 09:41 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Grunthos
And I hope I don't sound like I am arguing. This is an interesting conversation; I enjoy reading about everyone's different experiences. Thanks for the input!
You are arguing but in the good sense of the word - putting your case forward with your reasoning, providing premises for conclusions. Posts written by someone with that mindset are always worth reading.
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