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    Steve,

    If there was a clearly labeled "Traditionalist" sub-forum your concerns would vanish into the ether. Those posting in the Traditional sub-forum would know that the discussion there was premised on a traditional understanding of how to wear the kilt and could enjoy the discussion of arcane matters that most of the world has no interest in. The traditionalists could confine themselves to this sub-forum and wouldn't "scare off", with their undesired viewpoints, any of these new members that you keep referencing. Folks like Alan could steer clear of this sub-forum and not have their feathers ruffled.

    Why are you so unwilling to grant this simple request?

    David

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    " Folks like Alan could steer clear of this sub-forum and not have their feathers ruffled."

    If only, David, the reverse were true too? http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...9&goto=newpost
    Last edited by Steve Ashton; 25th November 14 at 11:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ashton View Post
    " Folks like Alan could steer clear of this sub-forum and not have their feathers ruffled."

    If only, David, the reverse were true too? http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...9&goto=newpost
    Alan posted that thread in the "kilt advice" sub-forum, not in the contemporary sub-forum. Is there an unspoken rule that everyone, save Traditionalists, are allowed to express their viewpoint when it comes to "kilt advice"? Does his advocacy of a particular viewpoint pre-empt other views?

    My comments were respectful and appropriate. I'm amazed that they were interpreted as giving offense.
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    The last time you proposed tampering with the subforums, the traditionalists of this forum gave constructive suggestions about what they would like to see. You ignored that input and closed the thread. Now you're proposing another arrangement that would also make it difficult to discuss what we really want to.

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...bership-85447/

    We want to continue to have a place on this forum to discuss the finer points of Traditional Highland attire from a Traditional Highland perspective. You seem to want to bend into logical contortions to stop that from happening and that is very frustrating.
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    How about forums labelled thusly:

    Traditional - to discuss anything related to wearing of the kilt in a traditional manner

    Contemporary - to discuss anything relatedto wearing of the kilt in a contemporary manner
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailortats View Post
    How about forums labelled thusly:

    Traditional - to discuss anything related to wearing of the kilt in a traditional manner

    Contemporary - to discuss anything relatedto wearing of the kilt in a contemporary manner
    It really is just this simple...

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    You know, I do read this forum, now and then. I've even hand-sewed up traditional 8 yard wool kilts. I own hand-knitted kilt hose. I own a jacket and waistcoat that were specifically tailored for me for more formal occasions, thou here in California "formality" is quite a few notches lower than what probably most of you gents would consider as "formal". I don't hate "traditional" kilt wearing, nor do I hate the guys who like to wear their kilts in that manner.

    I wrote out a long expose on what gets written that's offensive, and how a certain attitude pervades a number of guys comments on things that they don't like, but we've been over all this ground SO many times before that I just deleted it all. There's no point. I also note that I'm guilty, now and then, of doing exactly what I object to. So I resign myself to just ranting about it every now and then, when it comes up.

    EDIT: I also encourage folks to smack me upside th' haid if they see me pronouncing my view as being the better view, and even implying that someone else is "wrong", or "uneducated", or somehow "less" than myself for any reason whatsoever to do with clothing, in any way.
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    I also think that there should be space and time available on XMTS for guys with more traditional outlooks on how to wear the kilt, to discuss what interests them. We all benefit from the discussions, even if we don't participate in them, much. I know that I do.

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