Rethinking Irish Kilts (and a previously unseen vintage pic!)

[OC Richard]

I'm aware of the differences between the C. of I., C. of E., ECUSA and SEC. :-)

And there's the UECNA and the AECUS. I recently ran into an old pipe band mate, at a local Games, and was surprised to discover that he's now an Anglican Priest.

Here's his Parish, fittingly called Saint Patrick's

http://www.spuecna.org/

and here's something about his denomination

http://www.unitedepiscopalchurch.org/parishes.html

[O'Callaghan]

And there's the UECNA and the AECUS. I recently ran into an old pipe band mate, at a local Games, and was surprised to discover that he's now an Anglican Priest.

Here's his Parish, fittingly called Saint Patrick's

http://www.spuecna.org/

and here's something about his denomination

http://www.unitedepiscopalchurch.org/parishes.html

By a strange irony, although Anglican is the global term to cover Episcopal/Church of England/Church of Ireland, those in America who call themselves Anglican are normally either members of breakaway churches that are more conservative than the mother church in that they don't want to ordain women and/or gays, or they are members of the Church of Nigeria, which is the genuine affiliate of the Anglican church in Nigeria that has similar conservative views and has accepted some conservative congregations that happen to be in America and not Nigeria. Oddly enough, those congregations are full of white people, but of course their presiding bishop is black, like most Nigerians are, so some might say they are homophobic and/or misogynist (although they would say it was for religious reasons) but at least nobody could call them racist.

I'm an atheist myself, but am from England, where Anglicans are established as the national religion (although in practice that means very little, it being centuries since attendance was compulsory).

[The Q]

I'm an atheist myself, but am from England, where Anglicans are established as the national religion (although in practice that means very little, it being centuries since attendance was compulsory).

Hansard 11 Feb 1842 reports the end of compulsory Church attendance, although for British Armed forces it was not until 1946.

[O'Callaghan]

Hansard 11 Feb 1842 reports the end of compulsory Church attendance, although for British Armed forces it was not until 1946.

I think as a practical matter it had ended long before that

[James Hood]

Colin, your thread-opener is magnificent, text, references, photo, anecdotes, WOW!

Understanable in this mind, the Irish might desire to adopt a variant of Scottish dress style; 'made them look less like Englishmen, which may have been "highly valued."

The line about adopting a picturesque charachter in one's chosen mode of dress is pure poetry. 'Must look up some of the sources cited.

Thank you.

[CMcG]

Colin, your thread-opener is magnificent, text, references, photo, anecdotes, WOW!

Understanable in this mind, the Irish might desire to adopt a variant of Scottish dress style; 'made them look less like Englishmen, which may have been "highly valued."

The line about adopting a picturesque charachter in one's chosen mode of dress is pure poetry. 'Must look up some of the sources cited.

Thank you.

You're very welcome, James. Thanks for your kind words.

Over the years, the topic of Irish kilts has led to some very heated discussions on Xmarks. I'm pleased that my thread-opener has been less contentious int:

[cizinec]

Oddly enough, those congregations are full of white people, but of course their presiding bishop is black, like most Nigerians are, so some might say they are homophobic and/or misogynist (although they would say it was for religious reasons) but at least nobody could call them racist.

1. What does this have to do with kilts in Ireland (or anywhere else)?
2. I don't find it to be in the least bit odd that people of different races who have the same religious convictions be in the same church.
3. Having stated that these churches are "full of white people," I have to guess as to what study you could possibly cite and to which of these parishes in the US you have actually been.

Join a message board about kilts, a dog breed, or training monkeys. After about a dozen posts you'll know which posters do crossfit, which ones are vegans and which ones are atheists.

Thanks for letting me know what you think about somebody else's religion. Now can we get back to talking about kilts?