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30th October 15, 03:16 AM
#21
 Originally Posted by The Q
or in the British Military and Civilian, Electronics technicians world, it is an official term, US or when written U/S means UnServiceable.
Totally correct Sir, S=serviceable, U/S=unserviceable, BER=beyond economical repair=scrap
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30th October 15, 04:01 AM
#22
Advertisers and mass marketing have also contributed to the mislabeling of styles, types and uses of clothes. The best way to sell to the "Bubblegum chewers" of the population is to invent a word and call it fashion.
I grew up hearing about - button down shirt, Oxford shirt, tux shirt, then the whole variety of collar types, even thread counts popped up to describe shirts. I miss the old days and even like bubblegum sometimes.
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30th October 15, 07:27 AM
#23
You could go with something like this, though it is marketed for Mountain Man era (1800-1840) re-enactors, the shirt was little changed from the early 1700s or before to the mid to late 1800s. They have the advantage of being quite long as well and they look quite dashing. I prefer buttons.

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Slàinte mhath!
Freep is not a slave to fashion.
Aut pax, aut bellum.
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30th October 15, 07:41 AM
#24
Not to sidetrack, and only in the interest of being informed:
I've heard it said, that the laced pirate style shirt is an invention without any historical ties to the Highlands...
Please, correct me if mistaken.
"We are all connected...to each other, biologically; to the earth, chemically; to the universe, atomically...and that makes me smile." - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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30th October 15, 09:40 AM
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Hollywood and the lack of photography back "in the day" has driven the romantic idea that the common man must have dressed smart. The only pictures we have are almost exclusively hand drawn or painted posed portraits of gentry - in their finest. The crofter during the big clan eras could hardly afford to commission a portrait as he was barely getting by like everyone else.
slàinte mhath, Chuck
Originally Posted by MeghanWalker,In answer to Goodgirlgoneplaids challenge:
"My sporran is bigger and hairier than your sporran"
Pants is only a present tense verb here. I once panted, but it's all cool now.
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31st October 15, 06:33 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by Profane James
I've heard it said, that the laced pirate style shirt is an invention without any historical ties to the Highlands...
All I know is that I've seen a large number of 18th century shirts, and patterns for same, and I've not seen the laced type.
They have an opening for the head to go through, and a button at the neck. They have ruffles on either side of the opening so you don't see skin there!
I think these ruffles must have evolved into the lace jabots seen in the late 19th and 20th centuries.
Here are the 18th century shirts sold by Jarnagin's. Note that whether the opening is edged with a ruffle or not, there's no laces. In practice you'd fluff up the ruffles which will hide the opening.

Actual Scottish Highland outfit in the 18th century... no pirate shirt

Why the sporran? Because the trews, like the kilt, lacked pockets.
Last edited by OC Richard; 31st October 15 at 06:45 AM.
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