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27th November 15, 08:40 AM
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*Snip*
 Originally Posted by RectaPete
Another ScotJew here 
You know, after centuries of anti-Semitism in so many quarters, your cheerful post really gladdened my heart. It's nice that we can be publicly proud of our Jewish heritage too!
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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27th November 15, 08:58 AM
#12
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
*Snip*
You know, after centuries of anti-Semitism in so many quarters, your cheerful post really gladdened my heart. It's nice that we can be publicly proud of our Jewish heritage too!
For a long time I believed a kilt wasn't "authentic" unless it was a clan tartan. I unfortunately dismissed such things as ethnic/country tartans as jealousy of the Scots! Fortunately, I have been set straight. I'd love to own a kilt in the Jewish tartan or Gordon, as, while a clan tartan, it has a close association with the Scottish Jewish community.
[CENTER][B][COLOR="#0000CD"]PROUD[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFD700"]YORKSHIRE[/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"]KILTIE[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#0000CD"]Scottish[/COLOR] clans: Fletcher, McGregor and Forbes
[COLOR="#008000"]Irish[/COLOR] clans: O'Brien, Ryan and many others
[COLOR="#008000"]Irish[/COLOR]/[COLOR="#FF0000"]Welsh[/COLOR] families: Carey[/B][/CENTER]
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27th November 15, 09:16 AM
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 Originally Posted by RectaPete
For a long time I believed a kilt wasn't "authentic" unless it was a clan tartan. I unfortunately dismissed such things as ethnic/country tartans as jealousy of the Scots! Fortunately, I have been set straight. I'd love to own a kilt in the Jewish tartan or Gordon, as, while a clan tartan, it has a close association with the Scottish Jewish community.
A caution on the Gordon tartan: there are some conflicting opinions on its relationship to the regional Jewish community. Do some searching here on XMarks to see the conflicting opinions. If I remember correctly, the frequently repeated assumption that Jews were automatically welcomed into the clan had more to do with a convergence of regionality than history.
Use the XMarks "search" function with the words "Gordon" and "Jew".
Some mention here: http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-tartan-55060/
and here: http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-tartan-24580/
and particularly here: http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ds-jews-77651/
Sorry for the hi-jack, but I think it does have something at least to do with the confusion discussion. Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Last edited by Father Bill; 27th November 15 at 09:27 AM.
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28th November 15, 06:38 AM
#14
San Francisco Bay Area piper Erik Leiken is usually seen wearing his Jewish tartan kilt, which is beautiful.

Too bad this photo of him is pretty washed out.
He also wears a Star Of David cap badge, which is hard to see here.
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29th November 15, 12:55 PM
#15
I have occasionally been asked, while kilted in stores, questions that would be directed towards employees. It was assumed that I worked in the store... wearing a kilt and Iron Maiden t shirt apparently says "Target Employee Of The Month."
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29th November 15, 01:05 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by Nighthawk
... wearing a kilt and Iron Maiden t shirt apparently says "Target Employee Of The Month."
Now, I'm confused but not surprised.
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29th November 15, 01:30 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
That's probably me - I have Jewish and Scottish heritage. I always called it "Clan "MacGoldberg".
Actually, the RCMP sergeant in this area for years was/is Sgt. Moshe Gordon. Red wavy hair, freckles, and a big honking Jewish nose. One might roll one's eyes when I say that he was in charge of counterfeiting, fraud, and other financial crimes. Can anyone say "stereotype"?
He's got the double whammy there!
I was always told to be proud of my Scottish ancestry, since it was Scots who invented copper wire -- two men from Glasgow were fighting over a penny.
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
San Francisco Bay Area piper Erik Leiken is usually seen wearing his Jewish tartan kilt, which is beautiful.
Too bad this photo of him is pretty washed out.
He also wears a Star Of David cap badge, which is hard to see here.
That kilt is fantastic!!!! I would almost consider converting so I could wear that tartan.
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29th November 15, 02:00 PM
#18
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
San Francisco Bay Area piper Erik Leiken is usually seen wearing his Jewish tartan kilt, which is beautiful.
Too bad this photo of him is pretty washed out.
He also wears a Star Of David cap badge, which is hard to see here.
The perfect outfit for the annual Robbie Burnstein fund raising dinner held here in Calgary.
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29th November 15, 02:23 PM
#19
back to the original post; I figure it is because of the guy on the ancestery.com commercial talking about being German, and then finding out he was Scottish.
Seeing it without paying attention, they are relating German at the beginning of the commercial with the kilt at the end. Just a guess.
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29th November 15, 03:10 PM
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Clan RedBlack

While wearing my black kilt I have been asked which clan. Of course I always reply "Clan Black". I am currently watching the Grey Cup pre-game show and inserted this picture. For some reason it came in upside down. I decided to leave it as it somehow seemed appropriate. Btw I am cheering for Ottawa.
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