Some random old guys

**brewerpaul** · 16th March 16, 03:03 PM

The second gentleman's jacket and a couple others look like the old sack coat. Just my observation and looking at a few sack jackets out on the net.

**Cavalry Scout** · 16th March 16, 04:38 PM

I'm not sure those guys qualify as old, except in the historical sense, LOL. They all appear younger than me. I'm 56, and that isn't old. Or, is it?

Cheers, Mark

**freep** · 16th March 16, 05:52 PM

P'raps I'll try my standard blue blazer with the kilt after all. . .

**freep** · 16th March 16, 07:15 PM

Came across these guys. No sporrans, long coats and the guy on the right has a large patch pocket on the apron of his kilt.

Said to be a dance teacher and quite clearly a woman.

Queen Victoria's Balmoral ghillies, 1856

If these are dupes of another thread, sorry.

**OC Richard** · 16th March 16, 08:06 PM

Yes in the Boer War and in WWI Highland soldiers were issued those khaki drill aprons which protected the kilts. These aprons usually had pockets in the front, to stand in for the sporran which wouldn't be worn with the apron.

Boer War: Highland soldiers protected and camouflaged by Khaki Drill (the aprons were either just issued, or just pressed)

WWI: this apron only covers the front

A WWI Highland Officer's Service Dress tunic. Yes it's pretty long! (The rank badges were displayed on the cuffs- those aren't buttons)

**azwildcat96** · 16th March 16, 09:01 PM

I love the long hair sporrans...and they all seem to have one except for the one with the full-mask sporran.

**Tarheel** · 15th May 16, 07:16 PM

I can't wait to see your jacket conversion Isaac. Your build should make that jacket sweep (unlike the gent in the photo). I would expect a lot of questions about the style after your first outing.

**freep** · 16th March 16, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Yes in the Boer War and in WWI Highland soldiers were issued those khaki drill aprons which protected the kilts. These aprons usually had pockets in the front, to stand in for the sporran which wouldn't be worn with the apron.

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That appears to be a full kilt on the guy in the pic I posted with the pocket in front rather than an over apron. At least it's connected to a pleated bit and I can't see a kilt underneath (that doesn't mean it's not there) on any of the three of them.

Great kilt pin the guy on the left has, we could probably date the pic based on the invention of the safety pin.

All the jackets in the last three pics are quite long.

**OC Richard** · 13th May 16, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by freep

That appears to be a full kilt on the guy in the pic I posted with the pocket in front rather than an over apron. At least it's connected to a pleated bit and I can't see a kilt underneath (that doesn't mean it's not there) on any of the three of them.

Those would be aprons covering the kilts. Some aprons went the whole way around, some just in the front. But there would be traditional wool kilts underneath. (Canvas utility kilts were a century away!)

More old guys!

**McMurdo** · 14th May 16, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by freep

Came across these guys. No sporrans, long coats and the guy on the right has a large patch pocket on the apron of his kilt.

Those are Kilt Aprons they are wearing, the sporrans are underneath and that pocket allows you access to the sporran. You see the Germans would be able to see the cantle of a military sporran and aim for it, so these were developed, they also kept the kilts cleaner.