Some random old guys

**freep** · 16th March 16, 07:15 PM

Came across these guys. No sporrans, long coats and the guy on the right has a large patch pocket on the apron of his kilt.

Said to be a dance teacher and quite clearly a woman.

Queen Victoria's Balmoral ghillies, 1856

If these are dupes of another thread, sorry.

**OC Richard** · 16th March 16, 08:06 PM

Yes in the Boer War and in WWI Highland soldiers were issued those khaki drill aprons which protected the kilts. These aprons usually had pockets in the front, to stand in for the sporran which wouldn't be worn with the apron.

Boer War: Highland soldiers protected and camouflaged by Khaki Drill (the aprons were either just issued, or just pressed)

WWI: this apron only covers the front

A WWI Highland Officer's Service Dress tunic. Yes it's pretty long! (The rank badges were displayed on the cuffs- those aren't buttons)

**azwildcat96** · 16th March 16, 09:01 PM

I love the long hair sporrans...and they all seem to have one except for the one with the full-mask sporran.

**Tarheel** · 15th May 16, 07:16 PM

I can't wait to see your jacket conversion Isaac. Your build should make that jacket sweep (unlike the gent in the photo). I would expect a lot of questions about the style after your first outing.

**hector** · 15th May 16, 11:22 PM

The majority of the gentlemen on these pictures have their kilt mid-knee. It strike me how often I see photos of kilts worn above the knee.

**McMurdo** · 16th May 16, 06:25 AM

I recently got this jacket and waistcoat, circa 1930's it has some features similar to whats being shown here with the details on the pockets especially with the pockets on the waistcoat.

**Blupiper** · 17th May 16, 04:13 PM

Thanks, Richard, for the photos. After I got done with the finer clothing and accouterment details, I was taken (in the first set of pics) by the styles of facial hair. Quite impressive and varied. If hipsters get a hold on these photos, who knows what kind of muttonchops, beards and waxed moustaches we will see.

JMB

**Tarheel** · 21st May 16, 08:16 AM

I think the walking stick jumary is asking about is Blackthorn. There are several examples for sale and on former posts.

**freep** · 16th March 16, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Yes in the Boer War and in WWI Highland soldiers were issued those khaki drill aprons which protected the kilts. These aprons usually had pockets in the front, to stand in for the sporran which wouldn't be worn with the apron.

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That appears to be a full kilt on the guy in the pic I posted with the pocket in front rather than an over apron. At least it's connected to a pleated bit and I can't see a kilt underneath (that doesn't mean it's not there) on any of the three of them.

Great kilt pin the guy on the left has, we could probably date the pic based on the invention of the safety pin.

All the jackets in the last three pics are quite long.

**OC Richard** · 13th May 16, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by freep

That appears to be a full kilt on the guy in the pic I posted with the pocket in front rather than an over apron. At least it's connected to a pleated bit and I can't see a kilt underneath (that doesn't mean it's not there) on any of the three of them.

Those would be aprons covering the kilts. Some aprons went the whole way around, some just in the front. But there would be traditional wool kilts underneath. (Canvas utility kilts were a century away!)

More old guys!