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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Searl View Post
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    The photo I've attached is very close to what I want although the photo says it is pleated to a thin green line....almost invisible from a distance but can be seen more when the kilt is viewed close up. I'm sure "Kilties" can see the "thin green line" quite easily but for just the general public, I think they see only the broad picture of the tartan and not so much the elements....what say you
    The colors in this tartan are such that it doesn't give a lawn chair effect pleated like this, so that's a good thing.

    When I zoomed in on your pic, I could see clearly what they'd done. The kilt is not actually pleated "to a thin green line". What they've done is taken a pair of green stripes and put one of the green stripes up the edge of every pleat. This isn't what a kiltmaker would typically mean by "pleating to the line" or "pleating to the stripe". When there's a stripe (or pair or trio) of stripes, each pleat traditionally as the stripe(s) centered in the pleat. The pleating in the pic isn't a conventional pleating, and I would never do that for a client unless I specifically cleared it with him and he was OK with a non-conventional pleating. No reason you couldn't have it done the way it is in the pic, but it looks really odd to someone who makes trad kilts.

    And I assume you realize that the kilt in the pic is a machine-sewn kilt?
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    I didn't Barb

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T View Post
    The colors in this tartan are such that it doesn't give a lawn chair effect pleated like this, so that's a good thing.

    When I zoomed in on your pic, I could see clearly what they'd done. The kilt is not actually pleated "to a thin green line". What they've done is taken a pair of green stripes and put one of the green stripes up the edge of every pleat. This isn't what a kiltmaker would typically mean by "pleating to the line" or "pleating to the stripe". When there's a stripe (or pair or trio) of stripes, each pleat traditionally as the stripe(s) centered in the pleat. The pleating in the pic isn't a conventional pleating, and I would never do that for a client unless I specifically cleared it with him and he was OK with a non-conventional pleating. No reason you couldn't have it done the way it is in the pic, but it looks really odd to someone who makes trad kilts.

    And I assume you realize that the kilt in the pic is a machine-sewn kilt?
    I didn't Barb....Thank you very much for pointing that out. Like most people who don't wear kilts and even some that do those subleties are not noticed unless pointed out. I depend greatly on Steve Ashton's advice and as he will be making the kilt it will come up in discussion. What I enjoy most as a customer of Steve's is he gives advice very clearly and plainly; easily understood, but doesn't push hard his opinion......if the customer is adamant Steve accedes......like he says After all it's your money

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    Terry, I have a Maple Leaf tartan kilt in progress, and I think I can take some photos that will show two or three different pleating styles. Beacuse it is assymetical it isn't the easiest to pleat. Stay tuned.

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    Waiting although mpatiently

    Thank -you so much in advance for your forthcoming photos....I will wait albeit impatiently

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    a better photo of the pleating

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T View Post
    The colors in this tartan are such that it doesn't give a lawn chair effect pleated like this, so that's a good thing.

    When I zoomed in on your pic, I could see clearly what they'd done. The kilt is not actually pleated "to a thin green line". What they've done is taken a pair of green stripes and put one of the green stripes up the edge of every pleat. This isn't what a kiltmaker would typically mean by "pleating to the line" or "pleating to the stripe". When there's a stripe (or pair or trio) of stripes, each pleat traditionally as the stripe(s) centered in the pleat. The pleating in the pic isn't a conventional pleating, and I would never do that for a client unless I specifically cleared it with him and he was OK with a non-conventional pleating. No reason you couldn't have it done the way it is in the pic, but it looks really odd to someone who makes trad kilts.

    And I assume you realize that the kilt in the pic is a machine-sewn kilt?
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    Hi again Barb, here is a better view of the pleating and the comment that came with it was EXACTLY as you suggested.....I do like it though. It was a "one off " and the fellow who owns the kilt said it was pleated exactly the way he wanted it done. He was very pleased that I liked it enough to consider having my new kilt pleated the same...he thought it was a very kind compliment
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    Can someone explain (and/or illustrate with pictures) what "the dreaded lawn chair effect" is?

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    Here you go - a picture is worth 1000 words, as they say....

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    Yikes!

    Thanx Barb..that would be it......I wonder when having a kilt made if a lawn chair in the same stripe could be purchased then you would have a "patio" ensemble.........just thinking out loud

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    Hahahaha...I love it!
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    Just a bit of a disclaimer. The Maple Leaf Kilt in Terry Searl's photo is NOT one I made.
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