Ron, I found another link for a stateside Welsh cilt provider.

http://www.alexismalcolmkilts.bigste...generic32.html

She doesn't have the tartans you're looking for right now on her website, but she may actually have them.

I also remember Chris saying he got a Welsh National tartan cilt from Hector Russell. At least I'm pretty sure it was them. Maybe he'll bop in to correct me. *hint hint*

Also, I remember hearing somewhere that the Welsh Tartan Centre was the only place producing Welsh tartans, but I'm not sure if that's true. Worth checking out. The Welsh Tartan Centre has more tarans than they list. I guess they make new ones every now and then. It's worth emailing them to see if they have the Franklyn's have a tartan yet.

I'm surprised Murphy (or used to be Murphy) hasn't jumped all over this thread yet.