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    Too busy here. Keep it simple for greater effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Too busy here. Keep it simple for greater effect.
    Heh, I thought so too. Mostly I did that one for teh lulz. It also violates the rule of tincture by putting one color on another.
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    Your design is quite nice.

    Simple curiosity: My understanding is that in the USA there is no official regulation on arms, except that for seals, badges, medals and such for the Executive office and States of the country with a heraldic authority within the US armed services forming the nucleus of heraldic support to government. My curiosity, then, is how does a person in the USA arrive at an authenticated personal arms. Or, do people assume arms if not inherited? Without a USA heraldic authority, could someone else take imbrius's arms as their own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taskr View Post
    ....Without a USA heraldic authority, could someone else take imbrius's arms as their own?...
    Think of it as his personal logo. Submit it for copyright (?), then he could legally go after anyone that uses it.
    "I can draw a mouse with a pencil, but I can't draw a pencil with a mouse"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taskr View Post
    Your design is quite nice.

    Simple curiosity: My understanding is that in the USA there is no official regulation on arms, except that for seals, badges, medals and such for the Executive office and States of the country with a heraldic authority within the US armed services forming the nucleus of heraldic support to government. My curiosity, then, is how does a person in the USA arrive at an authenticated personal arms. Or, do people assume arms if not inherited? Without a USA heraldic authority, could someone else take imbrius's arms as their own?
    Yeah, I'm fuzzy on those details, too. I know one of the ways of "proving" that it belongs to you is through consistent use of it. I know there are private registries and I did a bunch of searches to see if there was anything like what I was thinking so I wouldn't encroach on someone else's identity. I found several in the SCA Roll of Arms that were similar enough to the first design (that with the fess argent) that I decided to switch to a bend argent instead.

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    Actually, your posting it here has set a time that you have first used it. A poor mans copyright is to send a registered mail copy to a friend that will not open it. If a copyright question comes up the USPS registered mail sets a formal date. Posting it here should do close to the same thing.

    Have fun with your arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madadh View Post
    Actually, your posting it here has set a time that you have first used it. A poor mans copyright is to send a registered mail copy to a friend that will not open it. If a copyright question comes up the USPS registered mail sets a formal date. Posting it here should do close to the same thing.

    Have fun with your arms.
    I have done the registered mail method. Several mail packs have been hibernating in the filing cabinet, for years. I've had some work published, & wanted to protect myself. Once, the registered mail method needed to be used. I was able to get some pirated images taken off a web store site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madadh View Post
    Actually, your posting it here has set a time that you have first used it. A poor mans copyright is to send a registered mail copy to a friend that will not open it. If a copyright question comes up the USPS registered mail sets a formal date. Posting it here should do close to the same thing.
    If this be the case (and I believe it is correct) I suddenly feel a swell of importance that we XMark members have the same authority as the Postal service in clarifying copyrights. If I had a ship, I'd officiate a wedding at sea. I'll try not to let the power go to my head.

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    Perhaps, Imbrius, should openly state that the image he posted IS his personal crest/logo/design. The official ‘This is It’.
    "I can draw a mouse with a pencil, but I can't draw a pencil with a mouse"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taskr View Post
    Your design is quite nice.

    Simple curiosity: My understanding is that in the USA there is no official regulation on arms, except that for seals, badges, medals and such for the Executive office and States of the country with a heraldic authority within the US armed services forming the nucleus of heraldic support to government. My curiosity, then, is how does a person in the USA arrive at an authenticated personal arms. Or, do people assume arms if not inherited? Without a USA heraldic authority, could someone else take imbrius's arms as their own?
    One option used by Americans assuming arms is to register them with the South African heraldic authority which is open to anyone with the time and money to do it. My understanding is that arms registered in this manner are recognized by most European heraldic authorities.
    Descendant of the Gillises and MacDonalds of North Morar.

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