Inappropriate Wear

**Allan Thomson** · 12th September 18, 08:14 AM

Surprised at some of the objections on this thread to some of the other aspects of 'modern' Scottish Culture.

OK I can't stand some of the stupid groups you see dressed in plaids and drumming in the streets, but what's wrong with some alternative interpretation and application of the pipes? For example excellent and clearly very skilled pipe bands like the Red Hot Chilli Pipers? OK maybe not everybodies cup of tea, but they do apply modern tunes to the pipes very well in my opinion?

**Allan Thomson** · 12th September 18, 08:18 AM

For an example listen to this?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5DVhoel7AA

How can you say there's not skill there? And I don't think it's disrespectful to the culture.

They're not wearing way out outfits though.....

**Allan Thomson** · 12th September 18, 08:37 AM

Actually come to think of it even some of the more wackier and way out modern interpretations of Celtic culture can have a certain appeal.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXm8JdC4k4c

For some reason delivering a lecture about the innaproriate wearing of highland attire isn't the first thing that came to mind if I was to meet the besporraned lady.....

I wonder why one of them calls herself the snake charmer?..... must be a reference to her Asian ancestory? I know Bagpipes are pretty popular in India and Pakistan...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g50Un5QD2u0

**MacKenzie** · 12th September 18, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Allan Thomson

Surprised at some of the objections on this thread to some of the other aspects of 'modern' Scottish Culture.

No objection at all here. For example: I happen to like Saor Patrol - I have all of their discs - and I think the Clanranald Trust is a great thing.

I like Outlander and Braveheart... and Brave too.

My point was, given the amount of Scottish "culture" of late - right or wrong - it doesn't surprise me that some outliers would take the "costuming" to the streets (or museum in this case).

Likewise, today it would not surprise me to see someone in "proper" kilt attire here in good ol' central North Carolina. Twenty years ago it would have.

**MacKenzie** · 12th September 18, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Allan Thomson

For some reason delivering a lecture about the innaproriate wearing of highland attire isn't the first thing that came to mind if I was to meet the besporraned lady.....

Indeed.

**Allan Thomson** · 12th September 18, 08:52 AM

Indeed, no doubt there would have been some 18th C Highlanders turning in their graves as seeing some of the interpretations of their culture produced by the Georgians and the Victorians, which we now regard as the correct attire.....

**Allan Thomson** · 12th September 18, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by MacKenzie

Indeed.

I am trying to identify the Tartan on her kilt (for a minute I thought it looked like Camel Thomson) and count the number of tassles on her sporran but I can't seem to focus on it long enough. If I invite her to my St Andrews Society Dinner do you think the outfit would be ok?

**CollinMacD** · 12th September 18, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Allan Thomson

Surprised at some of the objections on this thread to some of the other aspects of 'modern' Scottish Culture.

OK I can't stand some of the stupid groups you see dressed in plaids and drumming in the streets, but what's wrong with some alternative interpretation and application of the pipes? For example excellent and clearly very skilled pipe bands like the Red Hot Chilli Pipers? OK maybe not everybodies cup of tea, but they do apply modern tunes to the pipes very well in my opinion?

From my perspective, nothing. Pipes are instruments, and open to art to be interpreted into the contemporary or pop music, is very justified, and popular with many. However, I think we should focus on the actual subject of the OP, and that is a cartoon character paying disrespect to a very well respected museum by dressing up as a Disney Character, and armed going into a Museum in a country he is visiting, DISRESPECTFUL to say the lease.

Music is an art, disrespect displays ignorance of the party performing it.

**Allan Thomson** · 12th September 18, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by CollinMacD

From my perspective, nothing. Pipes are instruments, and open to art to be interpreted into the contemporary or pop music, is very justified, and popular with many. However, I think we should focus on the actual subject of the OP, and that is a cartoon character paying disrespect to a very well respected museum by dressing up as a Disney Character, and armed going into a Museum in a country he is visiting, DISRESPECTFUL to say the lease.

Music is an art, disrespect displays ignorance of the party performing it.

I don't know I just don't feel disrespected, despite having at least two relatives whose names are in the books there one 1st World War and the Other 2nd and down the hill are the (retrieved from capture at Singapore) Colours of my Grandfather's Battalion of The Regiment.

If I get angry at Edinburgh Castle it's more about the disgusting way the 2nd Battalion of the 1st was scapegoated by General Maltby for the fall of Hong Kong, it bites hard because my Grandfather was with Pinkerton on Golden Hill when D Coy retook it by the bayonet and put up further hard fighting on the Island round Mt Cameron, Nicholson and Victoria Peak. They were also amongst the men who rushed the Sentries left to stop prisoners escaping from the Lisbon Maru and breaking out other prisoners from the holds.

I still think to this day the 1st Battalion of the RRS should be retrospectively awarded the honour for Hong Kong.....

**MacKenzie** · 12th September 18, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Allan Thomson

I am trying to identify the Tartan on her kilt (for a minute I thought it looked like Camel Thomson) and count the number of tassles on her sporran but I can't seem to focus on it long enough. If I invite her to my St Andrews Society Dinner do you think the outfit would be ok?

I'm certain of it.