Welsh headwear

[tokareva]

Maybe one of the usual bonnets with a badge from the link below.

https://stkildastore.com/index.php?r...scription=true

Ok, thanks Arnot, that one looks good! It's also a nice size at 60x40mm.




I already have one similar that is only 44x39mm, and it looks too small to me.



Thank you!

[FossilHunter]

A daffodil brooch may work. Like this on Etsy.

[KnittedReenactor]

This is just a personal annoyance of mine, so no insult or anything aimed at OP;
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP THINKING THAT KILT IS SPELLED C.I.L.T?!! Yes I know the traditional Welsh alphabet does not have the letter 'k', but KILT IS NOT A WELSH WORD!!
Kilt is Scottish, therefore the correct spelling should be in Scottish, which is the same as in English. All of the British Isles speak English, that includes the Scots and Welsh. I also realize that spelling was not always standardized, but these days it is.
The Welsh have only been wearing kilts on a limited basis for maybe 30 years, all the while speaking English!
I beg of my Welsh cousins to please stop misspelling KILT. It just looks very wrong.

: Deep Breath: : Exhale:
Sorry just had to vent. Again, not aimed at anyone.

[Tobus]

Actually, while the kilt is a Scottish cultural garment, the word "kilt" is not a Scottish word. It had various names in Gaelic, but "kilt" is an imported term. As I understand it, the origin is from Middle English, of Scandanavian/Norse origin. I do agree that there's an argument to be made for using a "k" as the proper spelling, although the "c" for the Welsh variant appears to be a way to make it their own.

But hey, at least they aren't pronouncing the word "cilt" as "silt" like the odd American manner of pronouncing the Boston Celtics as "Seltics"!

[KnittedReenactor]

Last of my digression here, then we can return to OP's question. Tobus, yes thankfully the word hasn't been mangled quite that badly. I do think that whenever possible we should use the correct word, spelled correctly, when importing words.
Example: Muenchen is the correct alternative spelling for the city English speakers know as Munich. The 'ue' are allowed under German language conventions in place of u with umlauts (the two dots over the letter). So for English speakers there is no reason to spell or pronounce wrong in this day and age. The only reasonable exceptions I can think of off hand are alphabets like Cyrillic, Arabic, or Cantonese.
It do understand completely the desire of the Welsh or anyone else to make the kilt their own. But the first generation of Welsh kilt wearers is still alive! The Irish have been wearing kilts for about a hundred years, max. It is an imported cultural item. It is not a longstanding and ancient tradition in those lands. Throughout the entirety of their wearing the kilt, the English, Irish, Welsh, Manx, Australian, American, Canadian, Jamaican, and South African people have spoken English.

That brings up point number two. Should we instead promote the term FEILEADH as the correct and propper word? It is after all the root word for the Belted Plaid (Breacan an Feileadh), Great Kilt (Feileadh Mhor) and Small Kilt (Feileadh Beag). Plaid itself seems to have been redefined as a tartan garment worn off the shoulder. Let's leave that on there for now out of simplifying our discussions. It should also be able to be properly spelled in all the Celtic, Anglo, Norman, Germanic and Romantic alphabets. I think that covers everyone in the Western World.
This has been a ranting blowhard special action report, now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

[Tobus]

Last of my digression here, then we can return to OP's question. Tobus, yes thankfully the word hasn't been mangled quite that badly. I do think that whenever possible we should use the correct word, spelled correctly, when importing words.
Example: Muenchen is the correct alternative spelling for the city English speakers know as Munich. The 'ue' are allowed under German language conventions in place of u with umlauts (the two dots over the letter). So for English speakers there is no reason to spell or pronounce wrong in this day and age. The only reasonable exceptions I can think of off hand are alphabets like Cyrillic, Arabic, or Cantonese.

I'm right there with you on that! I lived in Germany as a child. I've been to München, and lived just outside of a tiny village called Börrstadt. I know the umlaut well! I insist on using it (as well as ß, the eszett, rather than cheating with a double "s") when using German words or names. My area of Texas was largely settled by Germans (around Fredericksburg, Boerne, New Braunfels, etc.), and it pains me to hear people butcher the spelling or pronunciation of German names. Even the town name of Boerne should, properly, be Börne since it was named after Ludwig Börne.

Language is a delicate thing. Once the meanings of words are misused or abused, or the spelling is changed, the language becomes something different over time. We Americans are a good example of that. I'm all in favour of going back to the Queen's English, rather than speaking whatever jibber-jabber the kids are speaking today.

[OC Richard]

Here are some period eyewitness descriptions of Welsh men's costume:

https://welshhat.wordpress.com/types.../mens-costume/

It's quite interesting. Not much mention of hats, but I do wonder what the Monmouth cap is.

Things repeatedly mentioned by various sources:

-trousers open at the knee
-blue the most popular colour for clothing
-red garters
-homespun coats and waistcoats
-corduroy breeches
-mentions of striped clothing
-mentions of plaid clothing "like Scotch plaid"
-handkerchiefs around the neck (and sometimes on the head)

[tokareva]

For me personally I can only say I did put kilt first. Then changed it to cilt because I thought it would be more appropriate for Welsh topic, I'm somewhat confused about the whole thing myself.

Please feel free to discuss this further, it is interesting.

[tokareva]

A daffodil brooch may work. Like this on Etsy.

I appreciate the suggestion , but would probably prefer the puffy red dragon hat.

[FossilHunter]

I appreciate the suggestion , but would probably prefer the puffy red dragon hat.

A daffodils no worse than a thistle to me.

Of course I’d probably go with the dragon over those giant pilgrim looking hats welsh women used to wear.

How about a st David’s cross pin? Of course it’d be hard to tell what it was if it was all silver tone. It’d probably be confused with a st George cross.