Graham ... Ham is one great guy. He certainly has been an inspiration to me. Sounds strange this but, we have now met twice for a day in London and as of yet we have not had a proper conversation as such about kilts etc .. we just spent the days together chating about all sorts of things and laughing a lot and enjoying each others company. Ham is coming over to stay with us in the new year for a few days so I know there will be lots of opportunities to dicuss kilts over a hot toddy around the fire .. as Ham knows only too well, it usually rains in Wales. Derek