Pardon me, but isn't the "natural waist" where a traditional kilt sits anyway? Compared to the "jeans waist" where my Levi jeans sit?

Quote Originally Posted by Kiltsnquilts View Post
The issue of rise and flaring the pleats is a really valid one! I have been asked to make kilts shorter so they sit at the natural waistline but I always explain that it is the fit of the pleats (including the flare above the natural waist) that makes the kilt sit nicely into the small of the back and keep it sitting where it should!