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    The term "traditional" is difficult to define, particularly as everyone has a perspective on it. However, I think OCR's definition and date of 1930's is as good as we might get. Personally, I tend to use 1918 as a start for the "traditional" period as I think there was a general need/wish for change after The Great War. The changes to kilt attire, in this instance, were slow as kilt attire purchases were on an "as needed" basis. They still are for many traditional kilt wearers in Scotland. Why? Kilts and kilt attire is expensive-----many still want to dress traditionally and in their view, properly------and to do that can be expensive. So a gradual change, on a buy when a replacement is necessary basis, is the way many have chosen to go. So, inevitably the mixture of historical and traditional was bound to happen and the process is still continuing today.

    The end result is that the newcomer to kilt attire is often confused more than somewhat, particularly by pictures with no explanations, or incorrect ones and especially as everyone has their own definition of "Historical" and "Traditional". As the multitude of posts on this website wanting clarifications on these two salient points, demonstrate so well.

    I do think though there is a big difference between the one "camp" of civilian kilt attire and the other "camp" of military uniforms and pipe band(military and civilian) attire. Many are not able to differentiate between the two "Camps". If they could, it would make understanding kilt attire requirements so much easier.
    Last edited by Jock Scot; 15th March 22 at 05:51 AM.
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    Posted reply in error to this thread. Apologies
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    It's an interesting though perhaps impossible task to pin down when our modern traditional civilian Highland Dress came entirely into its current form.

    Yes World War One is the best and clearest divide between Victorian Highland Dress and modern Traditional Highland Dress.

    Though reading Farquar MacQueen Douglas (1910) and seeing the photos he includes tells us that some of the processes had already begun, for example him stipulating the small all-leather sporran for what he calls Morning Dress (what we call Day Dress). These sporrans were just making their appearance at the end of the Victorian period.

    And the de-accessorising of Evening Dress had begun too: gone were the crossbelts, swords, powder-horns, pistols, and long plaids, but the smaller Evening Dress belted plaid and the dirk remained. They, too, were gone by the 1920s.
    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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