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                                                19th August 25, 07:21 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Yes, you do.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by California Highlander   That is a beauty!!     $70 + $10 shipping...do I really need another sporran??  
 
 (buy it so I don't have to)
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                19th August 25, 07:35 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	You saved me from buying "Setts Of The Scottish Tartans" by buying it yourself. My overflowing bookshelves thank you :-)
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by geomick   Yes, you do.       
(buy it so I don't have to) 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                19th August 25, 08:07 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	That all depends on a couple things
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by California Highlander   That is a beauty!!     $70 + $10 shipping...do I really need another sporran?? 
 1) are you interested in following the norms of Highland Dress, including the different modes?
 
 2) if so, what modes of Highland Dress do you want to put together outfits for?
 
 3) do you reject the Allen Brothers, and all of their evil works, and all of their empty promises? (Just kidding!)
 
 For plenty of people the answers to #1 and #2 are "no" and "none".
 
 But if the answers are "yes" and "two" then two sporrans would be a minimum in Traditional Highland Dress.
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                                                19th August 25, 08:12 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	But it's such a handy book!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by User   You saved me from buying "Setts Of The Scottish Tartans" 
 It's one I reference regularly.
 
 Other frequently referenced books for me are
 
 The 1819 Key Pattern Book (Peter MacDonald)
 
 The History and Uniforms of the Scottish Regiments (Barnes)
 
 Highland Bagpipe Makers (Campbell)
 
 plus my Scottish Gaelic dictionary and Irish dictionary.
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                                                19th August 25, 08:16 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	what are the clues to that being a real Scottish sporran? is it just based on having seen a lot of them vs the cheap knock-offs?
		
			
			
				
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                                                19th August 25, 08:34 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Well, I was on the verge of buying it. But as long as it went to someone who's enjoying it, all is well.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by OC Richard   But it's such a handy book!
 It's one I reference regularly.
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 Your posts have lead me to purchase 3 dress sporrans and a Mackie balmoral. I was even dangerously close to buying a set of small pipes, even though I don't play and don't have time to learn. Thank you for leading me to beautiful bargains.
 
 I'll have to look into those other books you mentioned.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                20th August 25, 08:33 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	With sporrans you can tell a lot more from seeing the back than from seeing the front.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by geomick   what are the clues to that being a real Scottish sporran? 
 Because there were makers in Scotland like Nicoll Brothers (Bankfoot) and WE Scott (Edinburgh) and the Canadian maker L&M Highland Outfitters (Nova Scotia) who made many of the same patterns, looking similar or even identical from the front, but which look unique on the back.
 
 So here are a dozen sporran backs from 11 different makers.
 
 These are examples with the maker's name stamped on the back (in the cases where they did do).
 
 All, or nearly all, of these can also be found with no stamps at all, or with the stamps of various retailers.
 
 So for example several of these can be found with Kinloch Anderson stamps, and several can be found with Hugh MacPherson stamps, and so it goes.
 
 This being the case, you have to know the tab-shapes and strap-shapes of the various makers to ID them.
 
 It's helpful to see the back of an Evening Dress sporran, to see the shape of the fastening strap, which Day sporrans lack. (Note that WE Scott and L&M use similar tab shapes, but quite distinct strap shapes.)
 
 
   
				
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                                                24th August 25, 02:33 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Not exactly sporrans for less money, but these listings look interesting...
 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116748235054
 
 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116748235970
 
 Something tells me the seller is being a bit too hopeful, but you never know...
 
	
	
	
	
		
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                                                25th August 25, 04:45 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	So above I posted a collage "spotter's guide" to the backs of various legit Scottish makers (with which L&M in Canada needs to be included).
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by geomick   what are the clues to that being a real Scottish sporran? is it just based on having seen a lot of them vs the cheap knock-offs? 
 Here's the dark underbelly, a "spotter's guide" to Pakistani sporrans.
 
 I don't know the specific maker in Pakistan, but they generally have that tell-tale equilateral triangle tab.
 
 Some are stamped "designed in Scotland" which you also see on the labels with many Pakistani kilts and jackets.
 
 Note the Evening sporran which comes boxed, the box and the paper tag saying "designed in Scotland" but the sporran itself stamped "made in Scotland".
 
 And several others of these obviously Pakistani sporrans are stamped "made in Scotland" but as I said they can be identified by looking at the back.
 
 
   
				
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                                                25th August 25, 04:52 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Gorgeous Forsyth sporrans in great condition, they might be worth it for somebody.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Troglodyte   
 (Personally I'll wait for a beat-up one that's cheap.)
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