Quote Originally Posted by kilt by death
Personally, I see kilts as having a front apron, pleats at the back and be made with X yards of material in a certain way by a trained kilt-maker. Even in not tartan materials, this can still happen( e.g. 21st century Kilts.) Hamish has said even he feels his Utilkilts type garments are not kilts, but skirts and (without actually seeing one close) I would tend to agree.
This is what I think too. A MUG (male unbifurcated garment) is not necessarily a kilt. A kilt is made in a certain way -- just as Kilt By Death described it. Call the other types of garments MUGs, man-skirts, or what-have-you -- they are not really kilts. A tailored kilt made as described (in any fabric) or a 'great kilt' folded and belted in the traditional way is a kilt. A canvas (or any fabric -- including tartan, by the way) pleated skirt with a fly or snaps in the front is not a kilt, however comfy, fun, and attractive it may be.

Having said all this, however, I would certainly NOT want to see guys who wear the 'other' things banned from this board, or made to feel unwelcome here -- I love their input and I think the issues discussed here relative to kilt-wearing pertain equally to wearing other pleated MUGs that sometimes go by the name of kilt!

By the way, I don't object to those other MUGs being called kilts -- or rather, Utilikilts, etc. -- I just don't consider them to be 'real' kilts. But they can be quite nice as just what they are, and you can call them whatever you like!