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20th May 05, 12:37 PM
#21
 Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb
All I ask is that a kilt does NOT have the pleats with horizontal striping. I've seen it too many times, and it looks like a "Where's Waldo" or "Freddie Kruger" garment! 
In that case, Mike S. should choose the red stripe to pleat to, otherwise there will be a green/black/green/black horizontal pattern if pleated to the double white stripes....
I agree, pleating to the sett is much more difficult - that's why I will be ordering and buying my kilts pleated to the sett - I am all fine and dandy doing them to stripe myself.... I started laying one out to sett, and it gave me too much of a headache!!!
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20th May 05, 12:39 PM
#22
 Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb
All I ask is that a kilt does NOT have the pleats with horizontal striping. I've seen it too many times, and it looks like a "Where's Waldo" or "Freddie Kruger" garment! 
Not sure what you're describing here, Jimmy. Can't quite picture it. Have any examples?
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20th May 05, 12:45 PM
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20th May 05, 12:49 PM
#24
 Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb
All I ask is that a kilt does NOT have the pleats with horizontal striping. I've seen it too many times, and it looks like a "Where's Waldo" or "Freddie Kruger" garment! 

I know what you mean Jimmy. This photo from Alexis Malcolm is the perfect example of what you mean.
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20th May 05, 12:51 PM
#25
Mike is going to have the same pattern in the horizontal of the kilt no matter how he pleats it. That's just the way it works. :-)
What I think Jimmy is talking about is a kilt pleated, not to a line, but to a solid color. That picture of the MacGregor kilt that beerbeque posted is not an example of this. It is pleated to the white line. Now, imagine that kilt pleated to the solid red block. You would not see *any* vertical stripes on the back of the kilt. All you would see is the horizontal pattern of the sett.
So, the same pattern is always there in the horizontal. It's just if you choose a solid color to pleat to, rather than a stripe, it stands out all the more.
I don't agree with Jimmy 100%. Pleating this way can look good. Again, it all depends on the tartan. Pleating this way is *very* unusual, though, so you will have a different looking kilt.
I, personally, favor pleating to the stripe, just because I think it looks better. All my kilts are pleated that way.
Aye,
Matt
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20th May 05, 12:51 PM
#26
That is a MUCH better example....
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20th May 05, 12:52 PM
#27
That photo that Doc just posted is a perfect example of what I was talking about. There, the kilt is pleated to the red, so you don't see any verticle stripes.
Aye,
Matt
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20th May 05, 12:55 PM
#28
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
Mike is going to have the same pattern in the horizontal of the kilt no matter how he pleats it. That's just the way it works. :-)
I guess I just can't visualize it properly... if it is pleated to the red stripe, and the red stripe lies in a dark field only, then won't that dark field be the only one visible in the pleats, and it won't make a noticeable horizontal pattern (dark/dark)??
....As opposed to being pleated to the double white stripes, which lie in dark and green fields, so both of those would show in the pleats, forming a horizontal pattern of dark/green as well??
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20th May 05, 01:13 PM
#29
ok now it makes sense. Doc's picture helped a lot.
Beerb, I think I understand what you're saying, but I think if Mike pleats to either stripe, he's going to have a vertical stripe look rather than a horizontal stripe look. I'll have to look at the tartan again.
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20th May 05, 01:22 PM
#30
ok, I looked at it again, and I see what you're saying now, Beerb.
I think if pleated to the white stripes, the white will stand out more than the horizontal darks, and so it will feel more pleated to the whites, with vertical lines rather than the horizontals.
Not sure about the red, I don't know how much the red will stand out from the rest.
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