Modesty Snaps, Only In Utilikilts?

**DotDLL** · 14th June 05, 06:01 PM

Hello,

I'm thinking of getting a new kilt for everyday wear and am busy surveying my options. I already own a pair of Utilikilts, along with a traditional kilt and a great kilt. The Utilikilts are by and far my favorites though, and I was thinking of getting another one, however I am curious to see what other kilt makers are
creating.

Anyhoo, does anyone here know if Utilikilts is the only kilt maker/manufacturer offering modesty snaps, or another way to temporarily bifurcate the garment?

**Canuck** · 14th June 05, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by DotDLL

Hello,

I'm thinking of getting a new kilt for everyday wear and am busy surveying my options. I already own a pair of Utilikilts, along with a traditional kilt and a great kilt. The Utilikilts are by and far my favorites though, and I was thinking of getting another one, however I am curious to see what other kilt makers are
creating.

Anyhoo, does anyone here know if Utilikilts is the only kilt maker/manufacturer offering modesty snaps, or another way to temporarily bifurcate the garment?

I think UK is the only one. I personally don't find a need for them, I ride a motorcycle wearing my kilt, I climb ladders, I'm on the fly floor in theatres, I work on my 4x4 in a kilt. I have found ways to work and not expose.
I do have a question though, do you find that the kilt ,when snapped into the bifurcate mode, it sort of balloons around your legs?

**Riverkilt** · 14th June 05, 11:17 PM

I'm with Robert on this. I own a bunch of UKs, two of them workman's with the "modesty snaps" Never been able to get them to work...even had my girlfriend try to get them snapped a few weeks ago and we gave it up. What's the point?

In the winter I find the snaps are cold against my leg.

One modesty feature they make that I do like is the toggles on the underapron of the survivals. I've had them hold in helicopter rotar wash. Will post some pics when the gallery is back up someday.

Just had the survival toggles work well again on Sandia Peak above Albuquerque...could stand on the edge with the updraft and not worry. Haven't developed those pics yet. Again, no rush without a gallery to post them to.

Ron

**cavscout** · 15th June 05, 07:03 AM

I don't know of anyone else doing a modesty system either but on my Survival UK i will put the toggles thru the eyelets and back thru the under apron to keep the lower end from flapping around. I've only bifurcated it once while on a cruise. I was on the bow observation deck and was taking a lot of wind. It created a vaccum effect behind me which caused the rear of the kilt to billow out and up enough that someone at the right angle would have seen the rear bumper. It never flew up but there was a lot of space between me and my kilt. I like wind

**jfellrath** · 15th June 05, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Canuck

I do have a question though, do you find that the kilt ,when snapped into the bifurcate mode, it sort of balloons around your legs?

I have noticed that, Canuck. I really don't like it too much. I wouldn't have gotten modesty snaps on the thing except that my wife got it for me as a gift. They don't hold well and if you bend over they unsnap. However, I never want to use them anyway, so it's really not an issue. My wife insists on occasion, though.

**Jimmy Carbomb** · 15th June 05, 07:43 AM

The Workman's that I own has never seen the snaps correctly done. I tried it on a whim once, and it looked ridiculous. Nice thought, just poorly executed.

If you need to "close the barn door", just take the kilt pin and attach the UNDER apron to the inside of one of the back pleats. Don't do the front apron since it may leave a hole... unless you really need to. I have had to do this twice, and it works MUCH better.

**DotDLL** · 15th June 05, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Canuck

I do have a question though, do you find that the kilt ,when snapped into the bifurcate mode, it sort of balloons around your legs?

A bit, yeah, but it depends on which Utilikilt I'm wearing. The Original model balloons the most. (NOTE: I'm fairly certain that it has snaps identical to that on the Workman's.) If I use the lower pair of snaps, it balloons quite a bit and looks awful; both the front and the back end up "squished". If I use the upper pair, however, it's not so bad. I tend to use this pair, largely for that reason.

The Survival model is a bit different though. It connects the very back to the very front (as opposed to the front-left and front-ride sides.) It doesn't balloon quite as much, and it tends to look better (its modesty-snapped state is only noticeable from the back), however it doesn't provide as much "coverage" as my Original does. Interestingly enough, my modesty-snapped Survival Utilikilt works better in windy conditions, although I think that its material is heavier.

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

In the winter I find the snaps are cold against my leg.

I ran into the same problem with the snaps on my Original. Lining each snap with a small, thin layer of duct tape helped. It didn't fix the problem entirely, but it felt a lot better than having bare metal snaps bouncing off my leg.

Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb

If you need to "close the barn door", just take the kilt pin and attach the UNDER apron to the inside of one of the back pleats. Don't do the front apron since it may leave a hole... unless you really need to. I have had to do this twice, and it works MUCH better.

Awesome! Thanks for the tip!

**Gaian** · 21st June 05, 04:01 PM

I have the UK Chocolate Workman's with the modesty and I find them to be more trouble than they are worth. They make the kilt lay wrong and try sitting with them snapped!

I honestly never worry about flashing anyone. The material is so heavy that it hardly flys even in a good stiff wind. So. I stopped thinking about it. The pleats always drop down when i sit even with my legs spread so, no worries there either. I think they defeat the purpose of a kilt and are better left off. Just be reasonable conscious of where you are and who is near when doing anything that might flash someone. For that matter, what are they doing looking anyway?

**jfellrath** · 16th August 05, 01:25 PM

Found another problem with the modesty snaps at a soccer game... they got so hot in the sun that they were burning my legs!

Stay away from the modesty snaps... not good.

**Riverkilt** · 16th August 05, 02:27 PM

Maybe some of that iron-on patch material to cover the inside of those snaps...I don't use them either...they've chilled my in the winter.

Think they're for reasurring newbies....at the Flagstaff games saw a guy in a new UK sprawled out on the grass while his lady tried to figure out what the snaps were for. Told them.

Ron