Well, Rocky and Kelly, if you read this thread, my wife gave a big thumbs up to the quality. And if a sewing job meets her criteria, we got a bargain. She thinks it looks very nice. She's going to try and make a corduroy kilt for me this winter. She even bought the pattern a couple of months ago. Is that cool, or what. My son's friend saw it and just said, ohhh, new kilt. Thats a nice one. My future son-in-law now knows where he's getting his casual from too. Thank's to the e-mails, I was helped in getting the correct measurements. We'll try to get a group picture at Fling this weekend that I can post.