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[motorman4life]

You could also buy a copy of Men in Skirts and leave it laying about...they'd be glad to have you in a kilt rather than some of the fringe MUGs.

Unless maybe they are afraid if they open the door to kilts that they will get men in drag, high heels, etc..

My feeling is, that if they allow women in skirts and pants, they should allow men in kilts. What if someone objected that they felt uncomfortable with women in skirts? Or women in pants? Or women in kilts? What would they do about it? What if you wore a yarlmuke or turban? If that made someone uncomforable would they make you remove it? How does wearing a kilt interfere with your duties?

In a professional environment, professional clothing should be allowed. This includes kilts for men that chose to wear them.

[Archangel]

Unless maybe they are afraid if they open the door to kilts that they will get men in drag, high heels, etc..

My feeling is, that if they allow women in skirts and pants, they should allow men in kilts. What if someone objected that they felt uncomfortable with women in skirts? Or women in pants? Or women in kilts? What would they do about it? What if you wore a yarlmuke or turban? If that made someone uncomforable would they make you remove it? How does wearing a kilt interfere with your duties?

In a professional environment, professional clothing should be allowed. This includes kilts for men that chose to wear them.

Most likely your first sentence covered it. Typically this denomination's standards discount the rest: typically the women will not wear pants anyway and the others are religious and not likely to be there except under special circumstances.

In most other setting your perspective is completely valid.

(Should note that my comments are based on best guess.)

[Alan H]

this link might prove useful...

http://www.newble.co.uk/hall/

It's the "Hall of Fame of Scottish Preachers"

Also, the Iona Community

http://www.iona.org.uk/

These are just links to interesting Scottish Christian sites. Our very own M.A.C. Newsome has a very 8informative page on Scottish Saints.

You cna also try here, to search for some other scottish/kilt-related Christian links which you might pass on to them that has minds open enough to hear...

http://www.scottishchristian.com

Good luck.

[herminator]

Amazing new developements have taken place!!
In the time of my sick leave our nursing home celebrated it´s 90th anniversary. In the morning it began with a church service - this being a "christian" house! In all papers an congreations invitations to attend were given, so I went there for the service. Afterwards I left quickly having other appointments. This was the 3. of december.

On the 30th I recieved a letter telling me that I am not allowed to wear my kilt when I am in the house in my free time, as a private person. The same director had been there and felt offended again!

So now I will have a talk with the liason between personnel and management board.

But the gall!! My New year at least was ruined, I was fuming!

[Blu (Ontario)]

This is interesting. Do German citizens not have constitutional rights? Do you have a lawyer who might write this gentleman a letter explaining them?

[herminator]

This is interesting. Do German citizens not have constitutional rights? Do you have a lawyer who might write this gentleman a letter explaining them?

I do not have a lawyer yet, first I will see what comes out of the talk with the liason. I do hope we can settle on my rights being observed by everyone concerned. If not I will see what I can do, this time I have no intention at all of backing down. Even my wife who does not really like my kilts is with me this time. And my workers council is also preparing for the fight!

[Blu (Ontario)]

Good luck with this.

blu

[JayFilomena]

I do not have a lawyer yet, first I will see what comes out of the talk with the liason. I do hope we can settle on my rights being observed by everyone concerned. If not I will see what I can do, this time I have no intention at all of backing down. Even my wife who does not really like my kilts is with me this time. And my workers council is also preparing for the fight!

I had a not so similiar episode many moons ago, when the pastor asked me not to wear my Kilt to service. It was said with humor, and kindness but the request was clear. I mentioned it on xmarks and received overwhelming support and advice. I thought about it, prayed about it, and came up with the scripture...a house divided against itself cannot stand. I go to church to worship, and draw closer to God. To be with other believers, and reinforce my faith. If my kilt is somehow...distracting, then it has to go. I don't mind punching a guy at the bus stop for trying to peek under my kilt (after all, Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple) but I cannot see anything good coming out of a fight with the church. Division, hurt feelings, passive aggressive attitudes, resentment, etc. Some things are worth fighting for, yes, but some things are more important then our rights. Remember, Jesus was innocent, but allowed himself to be crucified for the long term results. I would recommend you talk to your spiritual leader, and either find another job or wear pants.

[Angus MacSpey]

This is interesting. Do German citizens not have constitutional rights? Do you have a lawyer who might write this gentleman a letter explaining them?

I do believe there are some constitutional-type rights there, but certainly not in the sense that we have such in the USA. According to Jeff Rense , anyway, - though who knows if he knows what he's talking about. I have no idea how other countries (including Canada) might tie such a battle in with the concepts of "free speech" or "free expression," but as I'm sure we all know, an awful lot of strange things in America are considered "protected free speech" while having nothing to do with speech. But hey, that's ACLU for you - they'll defend body piercing and bestiality under the First Amendment. I'm frankly surprised Germany isn't more liberal than we are.

[Iolaus]

On the 30th I recieved a letter telling me that I am not allowed to wear my kilt when I am in the house in my free time, as a private person. The same director had been there and felt offended again!

I've noticed a few people refering to herminator not being able to wear his kilt in his own home. Herm, feel free to correct me, but I read this to mean "in the 'Christian House(TM)'" at which he's employed, while on his own time.

While it is still abhorant to restrict what he can do on his own time, it isn't like they're telling him he can never ever wear the kilt - only that he can't wear it on the property where he is employed.