Thanks to the mods and the sane people here :)

[LordDamax]

Unsubscribing from the UK list here in a moment, with an email to UK telling them if they have the list they advertise as 'the' list they should moderate the thing, because being talked down to and being told you are an idiot by the other listmembers... reflects poorly on UK as a whole. To be honest, it really has put a bad taste in my mouth to wear a UK because I sure as hell don't want to be associated with the kind of people that populate that list. Here's the straw that broke MY back...

There was a thread on 'commando' and 'regimental' and 'freeballing' etc. Someone who had previously been talking down to me said going commando originated with WOMEN not MEN. Well, that made no sense to me. I responded:

Women go "commando"? Um... sure, that makes all the sense in the world.

I just got a response, from someone OTHER than the person I was having the discussion with:

In utilikilt@yahoogroups.co.uk, Ed Benckert wrote:
Women go "commando"? Um... sure, that makes all the sense in the world.
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Say Lad...(Smakes him up the side of the head)... Who do you think
gave it a name???

A GUY!!!...Commando would mean a woman is ready for action.

Give it a name.... Stupidity!!!

Lad, you are showing your IGNORANCE!!!


So, I'm done there. Thanks again mods for keeping that kinda junk off of xmarks.

[bubba]

The one who responded to you obviously doesn't recognize sarcasm even when it's that obvious. Sounds like a sorry place to be.

[Kiltman]

Love UKs but resigned from their list six weeks ago. Have never been disappointed with this list. Mods do a wonderful job. Thanks.

[Riverkilt]

I too started out on the UK board...a kiltmaker told me about this place and I love it.

I do still watch and post to the UK board because there are SOME good people there still.

It is amazing how fast a thread can be hijacked there or how someone can pounce on one word, or misread, etc etc...lots of trolls...lots of trolls...

Seems worse since UK mgt passed on ownership.

But like I say...there are a few good folks there still... and I own eleven UKs so like to stay aware of what's going on.

May God have mercy on the tail end of anyone who dares offer constructive criticism of UK or a UK product. Management and staff of UK are okay with it and even seem to appreciate it....the loyalist trolls on the UK board do come unglued and attack with a vengence....sometimes....

Ron

[Raphael]

I can't stand that yahoo group. Although I am still a member of the group, I hardly read the posts anymore.

[Shay]

I'm going to be careful here, but I have to say something...

A while ago I was on a particular board. It grew very heated at times, and we as members all were very invested in it. Another board came about, taking a slightly different tack of it's own design, and many folks either were members of both, or one or the other. I was in the both camp. One of the main rules on the newer board was: no bad-mouthing of other venues. Because you never know where people are coming from, this is a different space, and we don't need the bad vibes from threads about complaining.

It was a good rule. I think it still is. And while obviously, I'm a new member of the community myself, I would ask that members here think of that rule when tempted to rant or kvetch about 'other places.' As someone once said, If you can't say anything nice, come sit by me. Wait, that's not right... I guess if we can't say anything nice, maybe we shouldn't say anything at all.

So since I'm saying nice stuff- this is one of my favorite places on the Web to visit, and I look foward to where we're going and what we're doing, because it's always interesting. Thank you to the owners and the mods who keep it interesting but not overwhelming. And to all of you for making me smile.

[LordDamax]

I don't agree with that rule actually. Ok, no badmouthing and ranting about it, I can see that, but if you cannot say negative things about your experiences elsewhere, how can you warn others of the possible problems they may face there? A LOT of people have left the UK list because of stuff like this... may save others heardache to read this thread and not bother to join because of it.

I know it's making a leap, but if theres no 'saying somehting not nice' then technically you shouldn't post bad reviews of kilt/kiltmakers. Like I said, I know it's a leap, but if you can leave a bad review of crappyripoffkilts.com why not a mailing list?

Thats all I'm sayin.