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8th September 05, 07:36 AM
#41
Let's face the facts. The formation of a police force is saying to the citizens they need not go armed, the police will and protect the citizenry. That's the bargain. Today with the help of bureacrats and foolish judges the police are no longer upholding their end of the deal. On that principle it's the duty of citizens to once again arm themselves.
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8th September 05, 08:03 AM
#42
 Originally Posted by bubba
Let's face the facts. The formation of a police force is saying to the citizens they need not go armed, the police will and protect the citizenry. That's the bargain. Today with the help of bureacrats and foolish judges the police are no longer upholding their end of the deal. On that principle it's the duty of citizens to once again arm themselves.
Yeah!
And if panhandlers can get away with "agressive begging" like grabbing somebody's hair and refusing to let go, with no real consequences, then I should be able to get away with "agressive refusal*" with consequences no worse.
(*Pain being a wonderful motivator to make somebody let go.)
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8th September 05, 08:10 AM
#43
 Originally Posted by Dreadbelly
I'll see your nit and raise you a tit for tat.
Here in SC, a woman, being chased by her husband, ran inside of a police station and begged for help. The police actually pushed her out the front door and told her that a crime had not yet been commited. The woman's husband killed her right there by the front door in the parking lot, in front of the police.
I stick by my statement based on real world experience.
Not unlike the incident behind the Riis vs. City of New York case. A rejected suitor had made threatening phone calls for about six months. Miss Riis frequently filed police reports and requested protections. The routine response was, "Sorry miss, ain't no laws been broke yet." After the stalker carried out his threat of hiring a thug to throw lye in her face, Miss Riis had 3 1/2 years of around the clock police protection.
Just goes to prove that a Citizen in the USA must provide his own protection.
Are we not in agreement here?
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8th September 05, 08:13 AM
#44
 Originally Posted by Doc Hudson
Not unlike the incident behind the Riis vs. City of New York case. A rejected suitor had made threatening phone calls for about six months. Miss Riis frequently filed police reports and requested protections. The routine response was, "Sorry miss, ain't no laws been broke yet." After the stalker carried out his threat of hiring a thug to throw lye in her face, Miss Riis had 3 1/2 years of around the clock police protection.
Just goes to prove that a Citizen in the USA must provide his own protection.
Are we not in agreement here?
Of course. I was just tossing some random chips on the table.
:razz:
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8th September 05, 08:27 AM
#45
You know, it's rather interesting that to make a political and social statement that I (we) can reach back in to my Celtic roots and find something that fits the bill. Such a practical, rich, and pragmatic culture.
I am not sure what else to say on that issue, but it fills me with a strange sense of pride that this culture covers so much of living life.
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8th September 05, 08:32 AM
#46
Like a lot of folks here, I don't care to carry a "pretend" knife. That being said, I do have a cheap sgain dubh that I wear on dressier piping gigs, simply because it's got a dressier looking handle. I wouldn't trust the blade for any serious work. As posted elswhere, I tend to make a lot of my own gear. My antler crown handled sgain dubh is the one I carry most often. Excellent piece of steel. I've yet to be placed in a situation where I've needed to use a blade in my defense, but my favorite sgain dubh has made a quick end of numerous hors d'ouevres, and even wreaked havoc on the odd dinner plate or two.
All skill and effort is to no avail when an angel pees down your drones.
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8th September 05, 08:35 AM
#47
 Originally Posted by Piper
Like a lot of folks here, I don't care to carry a "pretend" knife. That being said, I do have a cheap sgain dubh that I wear on dressier piping gigs, simply because it's got a dressier looking handle. I wouldn't trust the blade for any serious work. As posted elswhere, I tend to make a lot of my own gear. My antler crown handled sgain dubh is the one I carry most often. Excellent piece of steel. I've yet to be placed in a situation where I've needed to use a blade in my defense, but my favorite sgain dubh has made a quick end of numerous hors d'ouevres, and even wreaked havoc on the odd dinner plate or two.
One day, for the sake of living a complete life, I would like to have a knife named "The Eggplant Slayer."
There is nothing wrong with using it as it was meant to be. A tool.
What sort of hors d'ouevres?
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9th September 05, 03:01 PM
#48
 Originally Posted by An t-Ileach
The spelling's OK (pronounced "skee-un akhlesh" - all run together as 'skeeunakhlesh'), but how do you have an "armpit knife"?
Could it just be an "arm knife" as in 'up your sleeve' (like with cards and card-sharps?), seeing as some consider the 'black' bit to mean or imply 'hidden'/'concealed'?
Getting back to sgians....
The armpit knife I'm referring was actually carried in that position, by means of a little hook on the sheath that hooked over the arm-hole of one's waistcoat.
Here's a picture of one (mine; made by Glenn McClain):
http://members.tripod.com/clan_donna....album?i=8&s=1
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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9th September 05, 03:10 PM
#49
Hi Guys,
This thread has drifted off topic just a bit.
What we now call sgian dubh's are a product of Victorian times. They
are bespeckled with pretty stones and such.....
True "arm-pit" sgians were a differant creature, they were
true utiliarian/last resort weapons-not pretty but functional.
A generation or two before what we now call sgian dubh's.
IMHO they just stuck these knives anywhere hidden.
dave
Clan Lamont!
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9th September 05, 03:13 PM
#50
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
Getting back to sgians....
The armpit knife I'm referring was actually carried in that position, by means of a little hook on the sheath that hooked over the arm-hole of one's waistcoat.
Here's a picture of one (mine; made by Glenn McClain):
http://members.tripod.com/clan_donna....album?i=8&s=1
Hi Woodsheal!
Now that's a beauty! You lucky fella!!!!
dave
Clan Lamont!
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