New Forum Idea: So He Wants to Wear the Kilt

[Archangel]

Men are expected to shave off their gender and age identifying characteristics, their facial hair. Expected to dress and behave a certain way. Men are belittled and put down for being men, men who stand out and DO THEIR OWN THING. A woman is expected, hell, required to flaunt her gender in this world to make something of her self... But men must make themselves fit in to a cookie cutter mold. Off goes the beard. Hair must be clipped short. Don't stand out. Don't be different. Be a cog or a gear in the machine just like everybody else. Wear your uniform and fit in or you WILL be punished.

Some men don't have what it takes to deal with this sort of pressure.

hey Dread, check out this picture (hope it works): http://www.btinternet.com/~prosearch/tomswebpow2.jpg

Best version, only one I could find right now. They're all cookie cutter in uniform. Look at their faces. See the fight. They're all POWs behind German lines. You know the Germans are standing well back and nowhere near them when the lights go out. Remember, it's what's inside that counts, you're always going to be outnumbered, outgunned: then what?

Some people are going to need help with this, we should be there.

[Iolaus]

One problem I see with the suggestion is that the "others" are not likely to be totally honest with their concerns in a forum that the kilt-wearer is likely to be following as well, especially if it is a "significant other." Also, delicate or emotionally volitile subjects are liable to turn into huge domestic blow-ups when the poster starts feeling ganged up on by the kilt-wearers who will inevitably join in on the thread.

[cavscout]

I'm onboard with that Bear. We've had that conversation but I see no need to "force feed" my kilt wearing to her. I wear my kilts every chance I have but I don't want it to be a point of contention between us (even though the kilts aren't going away ).

It might be sufficient for someone like Shay to compose an essay similar to what others have done on various topics related to kilt wearing and orient it toward the S.O. of kilt wearers. Kind of from the "other persons" perspective.

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

One problem I see with the suggestion is that the "others" are not likely to be totally honest with their concerns in a forum that the kilt-wearer is likely to be following as well, especially if it is a "significant other." Also, delicate or emotionally volitile subjects are liable to turn into huge domestic blow-ups when the poster starts feeling ganged up on by the kilt-wearers who will inevitably join in on the thread.

Iolaus, I have to agree whole heartedly. I have thought about directing my wife to this forum, but I have concerns. They may not be valid, but I worry somewhat about her reading posts I will make in the future, and also about posts I have already made that she might read. I am not sure why, because I don't think I said anything that I would not say to her in person, nor in a way that is inconsistent with who I am. Maybe it is just the fact that our SO would be reading our posts that would inhibit some of us.

[Jerry]

Meow, yarr...

Actually, I believe I did include all significant others in my original staement- a category which I think also includes spuoses of any sex, mothers, fathers, employers, or anyone who's really significant in a kilt-wearer's life- in no way do I want a 'ladies-only' forum. (For starters, I'd be disqualified for cursing and wearing boots!)

Bear- I edited my original post to more accurately reflect the idea I had- thanks for showing me where I wasn' presenting myself correctly.

Hey, Shay, my wife has no problems with the kilts. The one who gives me the hassle is my 24 year old daughter who calls my kilts "her dads skirts". Of course if it starts to really bother me I can always have a nice father daughter chat about what to call a man's kilt and what it atually would cost her to finish getting her Masters Degree on her own.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Just a few thoughts....

- If the mods want to set up a section of this forum where signifigant others of kilt wearers can talk, that's fine and dandy... but...

- I don't really see what's keeping them from contributing to the various other forum areas of this site as it is...

- If anyone is worried about having their spouses read their posts they need to consider two things: 1. Nothing at all is keeping your spouse from reading anything you post on this site as it is, and 2. Why are you making statements in a public forum that you would not want your spouse to read in the first place?

- Laslty, my own thought is that this would seem to indicate that having a kilt wearer in your life is something that one needs a "support group" for. This presupposes that the kilt is somehow negative. Think about it. We have support groups for the friends and families of alcoholics, drug addicts, cancer patients, that sort of thing. Not exactly happy, joyous circumstances. Wearing the kilt is not a condition that one has to cope with. Nor is in an "alternative lifestyle choice" like some people want to paint it out to be.

It's just a kilt, guys. Normal people wear kilts. Let's not forget that.

Aye,
Matt

[Mike n NC]

A tip o'the hat to Matt. Thank you sir you said it much better than I had planned by the time I got to the end of this thread.

The only other thing I was going to suggest was perhaps a "get a set" forum for some of the more browbeaten guys.

Mike

P.S. Should anyone fail to see the sarcasm in that statement and choose to berate me for it...don't bother it would be like trying to teach a pig to sing. Wastes your time and irritates the pig.

[Wompet]

Maybe we could have a forum for that sort of discussion and call it, "So He Wants to Wear the Kilt," for folks to come and ask questions without feeling like they're intruding on the rest of the community with their questions.

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(And also for bosses, friends, parents, kids, etc to post questions or concerns- not just for spouses or partners.)

I'm just thinking if there was a place that could host a kilt answer board with a dazzling breadth and depth of knowledge, this is it!

I think that this would be a good forum to have, but I'm not being objective about it. My brother's SO's 13 year old son saw me in one of my UKs, and now he wants a kilt. His mother is supportive of this, and has even offered to make him one. Now, I know there are going to be a lot of questions, and I personally don't feel qualified to answer all of them (especially those involving kilt-making). She is the kind of person who would find a forum of this kind very helpful, and she's the kind of person who would appreciate that help.

That's my two cents.

[KiltedBishop]

I've noticed recently there's been some women joining, (hello, sistahs!) and more men talking about their significant others' reactions to, support for, or denigration of, the kilt.

Maybe we could have a forum for that sort of discussion and call it, "So He Wants to Wear the Kilt," for folks to come and ask questions without feeling like they're intruding on the rest of the community with their questions.

Just a thought.

(And also for bosses, friends, parents, kids, etc to post questions or concerns- not just for spouses or partners.)

I'm just thinking if there was a place that could host a kilt answer board with a dazzling breadth and depth of knowledge, this is it!

I am sure this isn't your intent but I suddenly got this image of a kilt support group. LOL

[Dreadbelly]

I am sure this isn't your intent but I suddenly got this image of a kilt support group. LOL

Wearing a kilt is sort of the opposite of support. It's uh, more about letting stuff dangle.