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**Shay** · 7th October 05, 06:24 PM

PS- Also, if you guys could post some of the concerns your spouses/SOs have had (luckily my mind doesn't run along the line of objections!) please post 'em in list form here and I'll do my best to answer them from a women's perspective in a short essay.

**Alan H** · 7th October 05, 07:09 PM

My wifes...as she has stated them... concerns/objections are:

Work... will wearing kilts adversely affect my position in my job?

Kilts are skirts. To her, they're feminine. She doesn't like her husband looking "girly" in a skirt and she's concerned that others will think the same. She hasn't said anything about that reflecting on HER, and I honestly don't think that's a big issue.

**KiltedCodeWarrior** · 7th October 05, 07:49 PM

Alan,

Any reason for those of us who are newly kilted not to respond? I saw you qualified your male responses as being kilted for more than 6 months, but I would expect anybody who had been kilted that long is well past issues with their SO. I certainly expect to be! Either with full support, or an agreement on when it is appropriate to wear it that we can both agree to.

IMO, by the time you have been wearing a kilt for 6 months or more, your SO will have come to accept it, or you may have moved on to another SO. It is the early wearing of the kilt that seems to me to be the problem

RJI

**Steeplechase** · 7th October 05, 07:58 PM

True, but the guys who have successfully nagivated the rough waters know what needs to be said. Those of use that are going thru the difficulty are the ones that are failing to address the concerns properly.

**Jewddha** · 7th October 05, 08:04 PM

I don't feel I meet what you're looking for, but if you're ever after a "youth perspective" (specifically high school or that age range), I'm about. ;)

**KiltedCodeWarrior** · 7th October 05, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Steeplechase

True, but the guys who have successfully nagivated the rough waters know what needs to be said. Those of use that are going thru the difficulty are the ones that are failing to address the concerns properly.

Steeplechase, maybe I misinterpreted it but Alan's topics for the men does not refer to a specific time kilted, and since this arose from another topic regarding just our SO's responses to us goiing kilted, I thought that us newbies would have some good input. I also think that those of us who have been lucky enough to convince our wives to embrace (or at least accept) out kiltedness ealy woud have some positive ideas, but I will defer to Alan, as this is his show.

RJI

**Alan H** · 7th October 05, 09:12 PM

KCW, there's no question that you, and other guys with "less than six months" under your sporrans have good things to say. I mean, I'm only going on about 9 months o fkilt-wearing, now. I do not in the slightest think that people who are new to kilts are inarticulate or lack insight. But here's how my thinking goes...

Who is the pamphlet written for? Honestly...your wife....and my wife, and a bunch of other peoples wives and girlfriends who just aren't too sure about all of this kilt stuff, yet.

OK, with that in mind, whose thoughts are going to carry more weight...someone who is "new" to kilts, or someone who has been wearing them for years? Whose views are going to be of more interest to a woman who thinks that her guy very well may have gone off the deep end, and is wearing skirts? Who, some guy who ALSO has gone off the deep end, or a woman whose man has worn kilts for a couple of years or more?

I mean. OF COURSE the guy who has just gotten into kilts is a freaking nut case. HE WEARS KILTS fer cripes sake. He's got three strikes against him, and he hasn't even swung at the ball, yet! He's just like her husband/boyfriend who is doing something crazy and unexpected and has her worried he's gone fruit-loopy.

In fact, I think that six months is too short, I'd like to see words from guys who've been wearing kilts for three years or longer, but even here on X Marks, that's a pretty small population.

Your wife and my wife don't want to hear from a bunch of X Marks members about how great it is to wear kilts. No, they want to hear from other **women** about what THEY think about THEIR men wearing kilts. I'm hoping that 2/3rds of this little pamphlet will be stuff written by women, not men. I'm hoping that only 2-3 guys write something up and 4-5 women write. For example, I'd LOVE to hear from Graham's wife about her thoughts and experiences. Graham?

Barb, Shay, Sherry, Cyndi, Iolanthe.... my wife is ten times more interested in reading what they have to say about kilts, maybe with insight from a couple of guys with years of wearing kilts under their sporrans. My wife doesn't want to hear from some guy...LIKE ME...who's been wearing kilts for five months. She's got that already.. Me!

See my point?

**KiltedCodeWarrior** · 8th October 05, 02:01 PM

Alan,

Point well made! If I had been able to make my wife comfortable with it already, then I would not be planning on sending her here to see the finished work! I think I might have her take a look and share some of her questions and concerns.

And I agree that the SO's of those who have been wearing the kilt for years will provide much more perspective.

RJI