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    Quote Originally Posted by KiltedCodeWarrior
    Bear, I have to ask the question, why do you care so much what somebody decides to wear, or not wear, under their kilt. I have to agree with Mowgli that I think that JDez has been very straight forward in his replies and open to suggestions for improvement. While this might very well be just good marketing technique and somebody trying to sell a product, it is much more palatable than your blatant attack. I am not a frequenter of Tom's cafe because I feel that it caters to people that wear alternative clothing for far different reasons than my reasons for wearing a kilt. But I don't judge or bedgrudge them their reasons. Would you also ban someone because they happen to be a member of Tom's cafe, or any other site?

    You are making some absolute statements How would you know? Have you worn every possible type of traditional kilt and with every possible body type that ranges from myself to Riverkilt to Iolaus to Raphael to yourself? How can you know what constitutes comfort for somebody else? You even qualify your absolute statement by restricting it to just the wool and poly/viscose variants.

    Finally,
    Hank may step in or he may not. I don't know his mind or his goals for this forum, but your comment would have had slightly more impact in my mind you you were actually an advertiser in this site and not just another person with an opinion.

    Anyway, I am off my rant. I just don't understand your overt belligerence to JDez, but I will acquiesce that you might have had other interactions that are driving your opinion.

    RJI
    From the XMarks The Scot home page:
    "X Marks the Scot is a community of kilt wearers and those who encourage the wearing of kilts. Kilts are a man's garment and it is our goal to promote the wearing of the kilt in more than just the "Highland Games" situation. This is not a forum for men looking to wear womens clothing nor is it a forum for other types of men's unbifurbricated garments. If you want to know more about kilts then you have come to the right place! "

    I was at Tom's Cafe when it was mostly kilts and saw the steady decline into crossdressing. Sure, it's just a slip. Who cares? Why do I care? Because a slip will turn into kilt panties, or some other silliness and we're all of a sudden talking about eyeliner and leg shaving.
    Why do I care? This is the biggest strictly kilt site anywhere. I want to keep it strictly kilts. You can all think of me what you will. I've never cared much what people thought of me. But I will fight to keep this site strictly kilts. Once it changes to Tom's Cafe, I'm outta here. (And I won't be the first to go. I have WAY more patience for non-traditional stuff than a LOT of people.)
    It doesn't friggin' matter if I'm an advertiser or not. My opinion is still as valid as anyone else's. Too many of you think of me as a kiltmaker first. If I was a kiltmaker first I would have kept my mouth shut like all the other kiltmakers. I wouldn't keep getting into trouble if I was a kiltmaker first. I thought about answering this thread and decided I'd rather lose a few customers and have my say than keep my mouth shut and watch the place go freestyle.

    I said, "Any properly made kilt in wool or poly/viscose will not need a slip for comfort. I can't speak for heavy cotton or denim kilts. If you need something for sanitary reasons, put on some boxer shorts and leave the slips to the chicks."

    Poly/viscose is non abrasive, so it needs no liner of any kind. Jimmy Carbomb has posted that a well made kilt will not itch because it will fit so well. That's how I can make an absolute statement about wool and poly/viscose kilts.

    I am not overly belligerent towards JDEZ. He took a poll at Tom's asking skirt wearers if they thought it was okay to use the word 'kilt' for his skirts. Of course they said yes. He didn't poll kilt wearers. He wanted a certain response, and got what he wanted. If he wants to make and sell skirts, call them what they are. If they need to be hidden under the name of kilt to sell to men, maybe they shouldn't be made.

    This foray into crossdressing will lead this site downhill.

    Why do we need to have this stuff on a kilt only site?
    Last edited by bear; 25th October 05 at 07:19 PM.

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