I LOVE 'Em!! J'Dez Underkilts

[bear]

First, nobody has offended me. Not even JDEZ.
My concern is for this site. I honestly don't give a rat's what you guys wear under your kilts.

Ignore my comments. People seem to think I rant for no reason. Nobody listened to a whole bunch of us at Tom's when we tried to keep that site at least half kilts. Now look at Tom's.
Tom's wasn't all that different from this site. When the Atrium went tranny, Tom's was swamped with skirters and they abused the kilters right out of the place. You couldn't say kilt without someone giving you crap for not calling it a skirt.
If you think this place is somehow invulnerable, you're wrong.

[Riverkilt]

I hear you Bear. I've watched the UK kilt board degenerate into a debating society about meaningless issues unrelated to kilts.

Just having trouble figuring how cutting the crotch out of jocky shorts to make an underkilt in the same way UK's Steve cut the crotch out of his jeans to make a Utillikilt is gonna lead to the downfall of this board.

For what its worth, anyone who wanted to wear an underkilt as a skirt would be arrested for indecent exposure the first time they sat down or bent over. The garments are designed as a type of underwear. They fail completely as outerwear.

Ron

[Riverkilt]

Thanks for that clarification Bob.

Did I miss something? Thought J'Dez was just telling us about the underkilt.

Kinda looks like that Spartan thing from Utilikilts that they call a "Spartan Utilikilt....only a bit shorter.

But hey, I ain't scared. If cross dressers and gender benders have the ability to destroy this board then there weren't much here worth saving.

My sense is the foundation of this board is strongly rooted and can withstand the various insanities that drift in from time to time...as it has before, and will again.

The strength of this board is in the members. The strength of the members is in this board.

Bring on the skirted hordes of girlie men...let us to war!

Bear, you're point!

Ron

[Iolaus]

Bring on the skirted hordes of girlie men...let us to war!

Bear, you're point!

Ron

From what I understand, the war was what instigated the development of this site. Do we really want to repeat history?

I understand Bear's point. I'm not ready to draw a line in the sand, but a line will have to be drawn at some point. I think Bear may be drawing it here, with this manufacturer, because J'Dez is trying to pass off feminine style clothing as men's wear in the other lines he sells, and this is simply a renaming of a traditionally feminine undergarment. Perhaps if he had come to the kilt-wearing community for suggestions, and developed something on our recommendations that addressed our needs and and took into account our preferences (such as that loincloth idea someone had) then he might have gotten a better reception.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the desire for an undergarment of some kind, but part of the premise for this site is to define the masculine from the feminie, and if when shown a picture of the "underkilt, my wife said "That's a slip," then I'd say it's awfully close to the line.