Now that makes sense Graham.

Got to looking back too.

Many years of being an alter boy at the local Episcopal church. Wore a cassock. Did have slacks on under it, but remember the loose feel of it, how good it felt, and probably some sense of accomplishment for being "chosen."

Did some experimenting with loin cloths in the YMCA, some kind of Indian guide deal I don't recall well.

I know when I was old enough to buy my own underwear I switched from jockey shorts to boxers...looser fit.

In college started wearing those wrap around deals made out of towel material for the community showers, shaving. Stayed with them things long into adulthood. liked the feel.

Somewhere in my 40s discovered Kafcans (?) the male version of the mumu. Felt sort of Arabic, but good to be free underneath. Great for the hot Arizona summers if you gotta wear anything at all.

When I first saw the Utilikilt it was the prospect of both freedom and practicality that drew me to it. For me, the prospect of a tartan kilt still meant special occasions and a full regalia presentation. UKs I could wear with a tank top and sandals in the Arizona heat and be VERY comfortable.

Interesting stuff Graham, thanks for the thoughts.

Ron