Welsh Cilt

[chasem]

Is it just me or is anyone else confused. What difference, if any, is there between a Scottish Kilt, or Welsh Cilt?

As Bryan said, they have a hem, no selvedge.

One of the things I've noticed with the [limited number of] Welsh tartans that I've seen is that the tartan seems to have a different pattern in the warp and the weft, rather than having the same pattern in each as the Scottish tartans have.

[Hamish]

As Bryan said, they have a hem, no selvedge.

One of the things I've noticed with the [limited number of] Welsh tartans that I've seen is that the tartan seems to have a different pattern in the warp and the weft, rather than having the same pattern in each as the Scottish tartans have.

Like this, do you mean:


This is the Welsh National Tartan, or Brithwe Dewi Sant (St. David's tartan). I am not so sure that all Welsh tartans were designed in like manner - perhaps Derek, our in-house cilt expert, can clarify this.

[flyv65]

I am not so sure that all Welsh tartans were designed in like manner - perhaps Derek, our in-house cilt expert, can clarify this.

I can't speak for "all" the Welsh tartans, but the Williams is also, err, *directional*, I guess you could say.



Bryan...now that you mention it, I can think of several of them...

[chasem]

Like this, do you mean:


This is the Welsh National Tartan, or Brithwe Dewi Sant (St. David's tartan). I am not so sure that all Welsh tartans were designed in like manner - perhaps Derek, our in-house cilt expert, can clarify this.

Yes Ham, precisely. Actually, prior to reading this post, the Welsh Cilts that you and Derek own were the only ones I had seen. I had also seen one other Welsh tartan.

I just went to the Welsh Kilt Store though and browsed through a few tartans. All the ones I saw had a different pattern in the warp in the weft. So, that's not a definitive answer, but several at least are different

[davedove]

Like this, do you mean:


This is the Welsh National Tartan, or Brithwe Dewi Sant (St. David's tartan). I am not so sure that all Welsh tartans were designed in like manner - perhaps Derek, our in-house cilt expert, can clarify this.

I see Hamish's cilt has a small bit of embroidery on the bottom of the apron and different web stores have shown something similar. Is this traditional on the Welsh Kilt?

[Derek]

Thanks for the compliment Ham. Certainly on the few Cilts I have seen the pattern is different on the weft to the warp.
Dave .. that piece of embroidery on Ham's Cilt is the St David's Cross. On all the family tartan Cilts there is a Welsh Dragon embroidered instead. I'll post a piccy in a short while.
Iechyd Da
Derek

[Derek]

Here's the pictures .. Derek

[Ranald]

Here's the pictures .. Derek

Simply great, I've been thinking of having a set of pipes embroidered on my kilts too.

[davedove]

Kilt Store offers two different 8 yard Welsh cilts, and only the more expensive one mentions the embroidered dragon on the apron. Since I ordered the less expensive one, it doesn't look like mine will have that.