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    Here are several web sites you might wish to peruse:

    http://www.jacobite.ca/
    The Jacobite Heritage, many primary sources dealing with the Jacobites

    http://www.northumbrianjacobites.org.uk/
    A web site about English Jacobites (yes, there was such a creature!)

    http://www.royalstuartsociety.com/
    The web site of the Royal Stuart Society -- be sure to check out the "Succession" page

    Hopefully this will help!

    Cheers,

    Todd

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    This might be more info than you want in one speech but "Highland Heritage" by Celeste Ray (***'t prof. of anthropology at the University of the South in Swanee, TN) has a lot of good stuff about the Jacobites and how "Highlandism" came down to us in the Highland Games arena. She talks about what was really going on back then and how it has been misinterpreted and twisted into what we have today (such as how all of Scotland has taken on a "Highland" identity drawn maily from the '45 era even though Scotland was anything but unified under the Bonnie Prince). From chapter 1, "A Jacobite focus perpetuates the image of the bagpiping "Scot," perennially dressed in plaids of rainbow brilliance, and a defeatist view of history that centers tragedy and grievance in the national consciousness." Recommended reading for anyone who frequents the games scene.

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    I would also suggest "The '45" by Christopher Duffy. It's an excellent book for a source. Here's the link to it on Amazon , if you don't want to buy it you should be able to get enough info for a librarian to find it.

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    Good point!

    Quote Originally Posted by macsim
    This might be more info than you want in one speech but "Highland Heritage" by Celeste Ray (***'t prof. of anthropology at the University of the South in Swanee, TN) has a lot of good stuff about the Jacobites and how "Highlandism" came down to us in the Highland Games arena. She talks about what was really going on back then and how it has been misinterpreted and twisted into what we have today (such as how all of Scotland has taken on a "Highland" identity drawn maily from the '45 era even though Scotland was anything but unified under the Bonnie Prince). From chapter 1, "A Jacobite focus perpetuates the image of the bagpiping "Scot," perennially dressed in plaids of rainbow brilliance, and a defeatist view of history that centers tragedy and grievance in the national consciousness." Recommended reading for anyone who frequents the games scene.
    Macsim -- good point for bringing up "Highland Heritage". On my "top ten" reading list for anyone interested in the Scots diaspora to America. Another good source is "The Highland Scots of North Carolina" by Duane G. Meyer. Dr. Meyer was a former President and more importantly, a history professor of my alma mater, Southwest Missouri State.

    "A Dance called America" by James Hunter is also good for the Jacobite background of many Scots Loyalists during the American Revolution.

    Cheers,

    Todd

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    I did a search on the online catalog for all of the mentioned titles and came up with nothing. Are these slightly obscure? or would they be reference books and may not be in the catalog?

    I found a nonfiction book "Bonnie Prince Charlie" copyright 1989 that looks promising but that is only one source. I'm starting to think I need to go to my fall back topic of seperation of church and state. Not as interesting, according to the class, but if I can't find enough information and sources I may be forced. If it comes to that I will see if I can reschedule my speech to be next week.

    I guess I need to actually head down to the library and start looking at the books themselves instead of what books are available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoippari
    I guess I need to actually head down to the library and start looking at the books themselves instead of what books are available.
    Is there a university near-by? You may not be able to check items out if you're not a university student, but you might be able to use some resources "in-house" and take notes, make photocopies, etc. Many of the titles may be available at the university level, although public libraries may have some as well. Some are published in the UK, so that may be part of the problem.

    Also, some might be housed in a local history & genealogy collection -- you might see if your public library has such a section. Genealogical society libraries might have them as well.

    In any case, make the reference desk your first stop in whatever library you visit, and ask a librarian for help. Online catalogs are great, but having someone who knows the "tricks of the trade" and other resources is even better!

    Cheers and good luck!

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    We have the community college (where I am going right now), Willamette University (I think a law school), and the public library. Those are the libraries that I know of in town but within a half hour drive are western oregon university, oregon state university, and within an hour drive there is also portland state, portland cc, and UofO is an hour and a half. Also there is Linfield, George Fox (a christian college so it might have jacobiteism information), Corban College (also christian), all of these are probably a half hour away or less.

    So I do have access to universities but I may want to call first to save myself a day's worth of travel only to find out that one of them has anything relevent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoippari
    We have the community college (where I am going right now), Willamette University (I think a law school), and the public library. Those are the libraries that I know of in town but within a half hour drive are western oregon university, oregon state university, and within an hour drive there is also portland state, portland cc, and UofO is an hour and a half. Also there is Linfield, George Fox (a christian college so it might have jacobiteism information), Corban College (also christian), all of these are probably a half hour away or less.

    So I do have access to universities but I may want to call first to save myself a day's worth of travel only to find out that one of them has anything relevent.
    Good Lad! See if any of the universities have an online catalog, but calling the reference desk isn't a bad move either! Check with your community college library and see if they participate in a lending agreement where you, as a student, may borrow books from other universities; here in Missouri we have such an agreement, and one of our students at the community college where I work as a librarian can request a book online from any of 60+ academic and public libraries in the state and have it in their hands in about a week!

    T.

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