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    Thank you for telling us about yourself, Tono. We're so glad to have you on the board.

    Very nice of Robin to find the Valencia tartan for you. It is a nice one. You will have to start a special kilt savings fund.

    How do the locals respond to your kilt wearing?

    Sherry

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    Cool precissions,...

    Thx 4 the warm welcome 2 everybody!

    I would like to make a punctualization,... according to all my past school and university years, it seems now to be more or less certified that the Iberians were of north african origins, and arrived here before the fenitians, the greeks or the celts. At the time of the arrival of Celt peoples, they settled on the west and north area of the country. After centuries, they mixed with the local iberians and created some kind of "new" people, called by the romans "Celtiberians". So at the time of Roman conquest (they spent almost a century in doing so), they defeated first the mediterranean iberians, after that they conquered the intermediate and hard to fight intermediate celtiberian area (Google Viriatus or Numantia) and finally they conquered the rest of the peninsula, defeating finally the Gallicians few years after Octavius created the Roman Empire.

    The Spanish celts are obviously from a gallic procedence. The nowadays remaining of celtic heritage in spain is just reduced to Galicia, Asturias (Fernando Alonso's homeland), and some parts of the provinces of León and Cantabria. The romans didn't include the Cantabrians between the celts, but not also with the iberians, so it seems that they were a mixed branch of celts and baskians.

    So, due to my difficult search of scottish-celtic origins from the most ancient way :-D , I'll prefer to think that maybe during the War of Succession (for example Battle of Almansa) or much more during the Independence War against Napoleon, some scots regiments would have been around here just starting to taste the local pleasures of our beaches. Surely one of them saw the litle fishermen's village of Benidorm and thought about the future! now,... well, every scottish knows what's Benidorm nowadays!!!


    Cya next time!

    T O N O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valencian Kilted
    So, due to my difficult search of scottish-celtic origins from the most ancient way :-D , I'll prefer to think that maybe during the War of Succession (for example Battle of Almansa) or much more during the Independence War against Napoleon, some scots regiments would have been around here just starting to taste the local pleasures of our beaches. Surely one of them saw the litle fishermen's village of Benidorm and thought about the future! now,... well, every scottish knows what's Benidorm nowadays!!!
    Tono,

    A number of Scottish regiments served in the Penninsula Campagain against Napoleon and his brother, Joseph, or "Pepe Botellas" as the Spanish called him. The Gordons come to mind almost instantly because of their association with the British General Sir John Moore who was killed at The Battle of Corunna:

    http://www.cabarfeidh.com/corunna.htm

    The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders also served in Spain:

    http://www.argylls.co.uk/91penin.html

    Besides the Gordons, the Black Watch, the old Highland Light Infantry (now Royal Highland Fusiliers), the Camerons and the Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) all served as Corunna.

    Salud!

    Todd

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    Tono,

    As a student of architecture, and being an architect, I have always admired what Spain has to offer in that regard. Alas I have yet to visit, but it is on my plan to do such someday.

    I want to say it is good to have you on this board for more than just kilts and being from Spain, it is because you also seek to be an individual. Welcome.
    Glen McGuire

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    Tono, Glad you found us! I look forward to hearing all about your kilted adventures in Spain. Good luck on acquiring Valencia Tarten, it's beautiful.

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    Here's a pleasant universal tartan, though here the blue is showing up purple:



    This tartan is a Registered Design under the Design Act. It was created for all who aspire to an association with Scotland and might not have a clan or family connection that would enable them to wear a tartan of their own. The colours represent:- Blue and White for Saltire. Purple and Green for the hills. The source of tartan 2469 was: Woven by Lochcarron
    From: http://www.tartans.scotland.net

    Sherry

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    my short experience being kilted here,....

    ...mmmm,... somebody asked about my kilted experiences here?, well,... one was just at coming back from Glasgow las easter, and the others have been mainly going for lunch at some english friends houses (with my Celtics F.C. T-shirt as well, of course, although I'm a Valencia C.F. supporter), and, as you can see,... quite intimally! ,...

    Spain is a quite difficult place to wear a kilt. Even in USA, Australia, etc,... they have a history and traditions related with or derivated from the British Isles culture, and, of course, from Scotland, Ireland, etc,... but that's not the case for Spain. I'll just put you an example. Over thirty years ago one scot was put in jail for a couple of days just by wearing his kilt in public on a train. Here you can always think about the legend of the existance of any underclothes, but the fact was that. I know that things have changed, but still today, in the deep soul of every spanish, "SPAIN IS SPAIN,... AND THE REST OF THE WORLD IS OUTSIDE!" This means that we are happy to live here, and that we are proud of our culture, traditions, history, etc,... so, anything coming from outside can be accepted just after being massively accepted, not before. I'll try to be one of those advanced ones!.

    Another difficult circumstance for me is my job. I spend most of my days outside home working as a salesman all through spain, so I must follow some usual and stereotype dressing rules (Tie and suit) to be accepted by my customers! You can't consider going to visit Sony, Siemens or Magnetti Marelli dressed out of their requeriments! :-(

    Little by little!!!

    T O N O

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    "...Sae come aa ye young people, whairever ye're from,
    A don't give a damn tae whit place ye belang.
    A come fae Argyll in the Heilans sae braw,
    bit A ne'er took it ill bein caad Erin-go-Bragh!"
    -traditional-

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