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4th December 05, 08:27 PM
#11
Valencia Kilted....this is the weaver Weaver
And it seems Matt Newsome can make your kilt :mrgreen:
Last edited by Robin; 4th December 05 at 08:29 PM.
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5th December 05, 03:08 AM
#12
Well ,first of all, I agree in that the first thing I should do is presenting myself and let u know who I am! My name is José Antonio Sánchez (Tono Sánchez), and I'm a 32 years old spanish from the mediterranean coast of Valencia. As far as I am a full mediterranean I'm not related at all with the celtic traditions, history, etc,... even the celtic area of Spain is just 1000 kms. far from my home, so it's very strange for me that many things that make me feel good are related to that culture and traditions (pipes music, kilt, scottish gals,...) I know that for many of you the expression "celtic" is not really proper,(surely rangers supporters, !) but from the spanish point of view, as far as I should be considered an Iberian mixed with hundreds of other influences, that is the best way to call them.
Anyway, as far as I remember I felt attracted by all that world, even against my family tastes (they prefer the spanish flamenco much more than a pipe sound) or my cultural surround (Moors and Christians feasts and Fallas parties) but the fact is that, and I cannot make anything against it! who knows, if I were hindi or buddist I would think about a past life! , but I am Roman Catholic, so that's not really on my mind at all!
I travelled to Glasgow last easter in order to make eal my dream of being in Scotland for once, and I'll try to go back next easter again. I bought there a 4 yard 8 oz. knife pleated black patterned kilt (surely machine stitched) for me, from James pringle Weavers manufacture, and a royal Stuart, quite better quality, but on sale, for my brother, each one costed me over 90 pounds, that can be more or less 120 €. Although mine is not a wonder, it was enough to make me wear it for the first time to come back home, at the airport, surrounded by some hundreds of Scottish football supporters coming back from a match in Italy. I went back to spain kilted, and since then I wear my kilt a few times, as it's my only one, and I don't want to make it get badly too soon,... even being not the best of all, it's my first and only kilt!.
I entered this site looking for info on the net about the chance to know if there was a suitable tartan for me, as I am not related to any scottish name, surname or district at all, (obviously, mediterranean culture is not as much related with that of the highlands at all!) and at last, thx to Robin I get on a way to find a nice one, that you all can see as my avatar, and is registered at the scottish tartans authority as the "Valencia" tartan, and designed by a valencian girl.
Now, my next challenge will be to decide if I spend the money I would need for a new 8-yard kilt also knife pleated, with my "colours". Considering the price of the fabric (at least medium weight woollen tartan) with the transport and the tailoring costs, totally it would represent more or less the amount of my monthly net income.
As I'm still paying my car and flat,... it's a difficult decission don't u think?
Anyway, I'll try to make it real soon or later! Maybe M.A.C. Newsome would teach me how to sew it at my stops at different hotels all around Spain!(I work as a salesman, always driving from town to town)
Well, enough for 2day!
have luck u all over there!
Tono
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5th December 05, 03:49 AM
#13
Tono,
Bienvenidos! How exciting that our board has members from the far reaches of the globe... As for the Valencia Tartan: one of the most beautiful I've seen. It's on my wishlist. (as is a visit to Valencia!)
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5th December 05, 08:31 AM
#14
 Originally Posted by Valencian Kilted
As far as I am a full mediterranean I'm not related at all with the celtic traditions, history, etc,... even the celtic area of Spain is just 1000 kms. far from my home, so it's very strange for me that many things that make me feel good are related to that culture and traditions...
My understanding is that Iberia was one of the Celtic nations. So you could be full of celtic heritage. And the chances are good that you could have some distant far away remote ancestor who had a small part of Scottish blood. It only takes one drop to infect the rest.
Welcome to the group.
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5th December 05, 11:25 AM
#15
Thank you for telling us about yourself, Tono. We're so glad to have you on the board.
Very nice of Robin to find the Valencia tartan for you. It is a nice one. You will have to start a special kilt savings fund.
How do the locals respond to your kilt wearing?
Sherry
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5th December 05, 02:24 PM
#16
precissions,...
Thx 4 the warm welcome 2 everybody!
I would like to make a punctualization,... according to all my past school and university years, it seems now to be more or less certified that the Iberians were of north african origins, and arrived here before the fenitians, the greeks or the celts. At the time of the arrival of Celt peoples, they settled on the west and north area of the country. After centuries, they mixed with the local iberians and created some kind of "new" people, called by the romans "Celtiberians". So at the time of Roman conquest (they spent almost a century in doing so), they defeated first the mediterranean iberians, after that they conquered the intermediate and hard to fight intermediate celtiberian area (Google Viriatus or Numantia) and finally they conquered the rest of the peninsula, defeating finally the Gallicians few years after Octavius created the Roman Empire.
The Spanish celts are obviously from a gallic procedence. The nowadays remaining of celtic heritage in spain is just reduced to Galicia, Asturias (Fernando Alonso's homeland), and some parts of the provinces of León and Cantabria. The romans didn't include the Cantabrians between the celts, but not also with the iberians, so it seems that they were a mixed branch of celts and baskians.
So, due to my difficult search of scottish-celtic origins from the most ancient way :-D , I'll prefer to think that maybe during the War of Succession (for example Battle of Almansa) or much more during the Independence War against Napoleon, some scots regiments would have been around here just starting to taste the local pleasures of our beaches. Surely one of them saw the litle fishermen's village of Benidorm and thought about the future! now,... well, every scottish knows what's Benidorm nowadays!!!
Cya next time!
T O N O
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5th December 05, 02:36 PM
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 Originally Posted by Valencian Kilted
So, due to my difficult search of scottish-celtic origins from the most ancient way :-D , I'll prefer to think that maybe during the War of Succession (for example Battle of Almansa) or much more during the Independence War against Napoleon, some scots regiments would have been around here just starting to taste the local pleasures of our beaches. Surely one of them saw the litle fishermen's village of Benidorm and thought about the future! now,... well, every scottish knows what's Benidorm nowadays!!!
Tono,
A number of Scottish regiments served in the Penninsula Campagain against Napoleon and his brother, Joseph, or "Pepe Botellas" as the Spanish called him. The Gordons come to mind almost instantly because of their association with the British General Sir John Moore who was killed at The Battle of Corunna:
http://www.cabarfeidh.com/corunna.htm
The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders also served in Spain:
http://www.argylls.co.uk/91penin.html
Besides the Gordons, the Black Watch, the old Highland Light Infantry (now Royal Highland Fusiliers), the Camerons and the Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) all served as Corunna.
Salud! 
Todd
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5th December 05, 04:24 PM
#18
Tono,
As a student of architecture, and being an architect, I have always admired what Spain has to offer in that regard. Alas I have yet to visit, but it is on my plan to do such someday.
I want to say it is good to have you on this board for more than just kilts and being from Spain, it is because you also seek to be an individual. Welcome.
Glen McGuire
A Life Lived in Fear, Is a Life Half Lived.
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5th December 05, 05:34 PM
#19
Tono, Glad you found us! I look forward to hearing all about your kilted adventures in Spain. Good luck on acquiring Valencia Tarten, it's beautiful.
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5th December 05, 06:38 PM
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Here's a pleasant universal tartan, though here the blue is showing up purple:

This tartan is a Registered Design under the Design Act. It was created for all who aspire to an association with Scotland and might not have a clan or family connection that would enable them to wear a tartan of their own. The colours represent:- Blue and White for Saltire. Purple and Green for the hills. The source of tartan 2469 was: Woven by Lochcarron
From: http://www.tartans.scotland.net
Sherry
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