Kilt in Italy

**minimalistix** · 15th December 05, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by dejudicibus

First of all, I apologies for my poor English: it is not my first language.

Hell, English is my first language and I don't write very well with it either. ;)

**davedove** · 15th December 05, 06:36 AM

Welcome aboard! I don't know for sure, but you may be our first Italian member.

I like your fantasy idea. Although I never wrote any stories, I created a game setting where elves were similar to the Welsh and dwarves were kilted.

**Graham** · 15th December 05, 06:58 AM

Welcome dejudicibus, well Matt has very nicely shown the links between Italy and Scotland, all i can offer is this photo, I took it on the Orkney Islands, it is a Catholic Church built by Italians during the war.

A little bit of Italy in Scotland.

**dejudicibus** · 15th December 05, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Graham

...on the Orkney Islands, it is a Catholic Church built by Italians during the war. A little bit of Italy in Scotland.

Orkney Islands? So far! Incredible. Next time I will come in Scotland I would like to visit Orkney and Shetland Islands. I live in Rome, a very crowded city. It should be quite different to live over there.

This is what I like of Internet. You can meet good people all around the world even when you do not travel. And you learn a lot. A great way to know each other, avoid stereotypes and prejudices, and appreciate what's good in other cultures.

Thank you for picture, Graham.

**macwilkin** · 15th December 05, 07:54 AM

Here is the web site of the Caledonian Society of Rome:

http://www.caledoniansocietyofrome.org/

And the City of Rome Pipe Band

http://www.cityofromepipeband.org/home.html

The Caledonian Society has a nice paragraph about the City of Rome tartan, which is used for their web site's background:

In late 2004 the City of Rome Pipe Band was introduced to retired weaver and tartan designer, Ken Clark, from Brora in Sutherland, Scotland, and in April 2005, with help from Ken, they decided to design their very own “City of Rome” tartan. The Black and Navy Blue background represents the colours of the “Azzuri”, the National Italian football team. The cross strip of Yellow is for the gold of the Vatican, with the over check of Maroon and Orange being the official colours of the Eternal City. The tartan has the approval of the City of Rome Authorities as the city's official tartan.

Perhaps dejudicibus will attend their Burns Night and give us a report? :mrgreen:

Cheers,

Todd

**dejudicibus** · 16th December 05, 06:49 AM

Well, there is another linkage that very few people know about Italian and Celtic culture. The Italian playing card deck is made of 40 cards in four suits. Suits are: swords (spade), staves (bastoni), cups (coppe) and coins (denari). Each suit consists of an ace, six numbered cards (two to seven), a knave, a horseman, and a king.

Italian suits originate from the four magical objects brought by the Tuatha de Danaan to Ireland and mentioned at the beginning of the Second Battle of Moytura: cups from the Dagda's Cauldron, staves from the Spear of Lugh, coins from the Stone of Fal, and swords from the Sword of Nuada.

You can see some other decks here: http://a_pollett.tripod.com/cards5.htm

**dejudicibus** · 16th December 05, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

Perhaps dejudicibus will attend their Burns Night and give us a report?

Well, on December I already reserved for a Gospel concert, but I may think about it for January. Why not? By the way, call me just Dario, my first name.

**auld argonian** · 15th December 05, 07:58 AM

I'm by no means an authority on Scottish History, but I do recall some material that I read pertinent to the possibility that the roots of the Scots in my family being in Italy. Seems that there is some speculation that certain Roman soldiers who were on a little junket to the British Isles may have "jumped the wall" (Hadrian's) and gone native...so you may not be the first to fall in love with Scotland and Ireland.

...it's all relative...and , ultimately, we are all relatives.

Best

AA

**GMan** · 15th December 05, 09:31 AM

Dario,

WELCOME!

Funny thing about kilts is the universal nature of them. Glad that you found this place, you are already noticing tons of information regarding all things Celtic.

I checked out your website, and what have I to say but WOW.

Again welcome.