The whole nine yards.

[Southern Breeze]

I don't know...in some business environments, the dirk might be an absolute necessity.

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Busines environments require a claymore,not a dirk.

[Bob C]

Well, I DO own a Claymore...

[Miah]

I still don't have the full get up maybe one day I will I know I want to get a nice Crail outfit so I can wear it to work.

[GMan]

Being a very laid back guy myself casual is usually my choice of kilt wearing. However dressing up is so wonderful to do. I do understand what you are saying Bob.

[yoippari]

Salem itself is pretty casual (salem, oregon, not tha tother salem with the bad reputation). At the community college all the instructors go by their first name. Even the president of the college. Pastors generally go by their first name and no title. I am trying to remember but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a suit that wasnt either for sale or worn by someone that only goes to church at easter and christmas (I saw more than one at the christmas eve service).

So basicly suits would be a costume here used only when dressing for a specific occasion. Tuxes are only for school dances and weddings. Even then it is only the groom, best man, and the other guys that stand up there (what are they called again).

So the full formal kilt would be very over the top here and the argyle would be for special occasions. Of course you can go as far as monmouth (western oregon university) which is probably half an hour away and you get a little more formal. The president of western goes by president whatever. Betty behind her back.

[Tartan Texan Trenton]

Tuxes are only for school dances and weddings. Even then it is only the groom, best man, and the other guys that stand up there (what are they called again?)

Um - that would be the groomsmen, methinks. And I agree with Freddie; unless a particular formality of dress is specified in the invitation (i.e. black tie, white tie, or dress uniform - each of which are very specific) it is up to the wearer to decide what is most appropriate. Especially here in America, where many people dress up for a party by finding their best pair of jeans and an un-ripped t-shirt...

It may have been an old thread, but it was worth it to get you to post your photos, Bob! You and your lady turned out stunningly, especially as you were the MC! Thanks again for sharing the pics!

[Livingston]

Busines environments require a claymore,not a dirk.

I'd say the claymore AND the dirk, not to mention a targe.

[Hosehead]

I have to agree as well, Bob. I originally purchased my formal outfit for my wedding, and now I want to find other uses for it. Luckily my wife's company is having a black tie formal next weekend. I am sure I will be the only kilt wearer in attendance...