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29th January 06, 05:00 PM
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St. Patrick's Day...
I just love St Patrick's Day and the Irish-it seems that sometimes the Scots get a little bit posessive of their heritage, but all it takes to become Irish is a set of shamrock antenna and a generous helping of green beer.
Not to start anything, but my experience has been the reverse. Our local (and now defunct) Celtic Society used to provide the colour party for the front of the local St. Patrick's Day parade, and we usually would get some semi-negative (and anti-Scots) comments from some of the more militant Irish. I remember being asked by one of them why the Scots were part of the Celtic Society, since only the Irish are "Celtic". (They really didn't like it when you would respond that neither was St. Patrick, since he was a Romano-Briton from either Wales or Scotland, take your pick!)
Now, that being said, I now plenty of folks of Irish heritage (many of them here) who are not that way at all. I don't like generalizations, though, and with many different ethnicities, states, provinces, countries, etc. designing their own tartans, I don't think it's fair to paint all Scots with that brush.
Green Beer...to quote Michaeleen Og Flynn in "The Quiet Man", "The Borgias could do better!" :mrgreen:
Cheers, 
Todd
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29th January 06, 10:34 PM
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 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Green Beer...to quote Michaeleen Og Flynn in "The Quiet Man", "The Borgias could do better!" :mrgreen:
Cheers,
Todd
Michaeleen was referring to buttermilk in that scene--this being one of my all-time favorite movies I just about have the dialogue by heart. He might have thought the same thing about green beer too, if he had ever encountered it. If I'm not mistaken that is an American custom to adulterate good beer in such a manner.
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29th January 06, 11:03 PM
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 Originally Posted by kiltimabar
If I'm not mistaken that is an American custom to adulterate good beer in such a manner.
Oh no, they never use good beer for that, just the cheap crap.
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30th January 06, 06:00 AM
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Quiet Man
 Originally Posted by kiltimabar
Michaeleen was referring to buttermilk in that scene--this being one of my all-time favorite movies I just about have the dialogue by heart. He might have thought the same thing about green beer too, if he had ever encountered it. If I'm not mistaken that is an American custom to adulterate good beer in such a manner.
Yes, I know...in the scene where Sean and Michaeleen come to speak to Red Will Danaher about Mary Kate and Sean. That should have been a paraphrase, oops -- it was supposed to be an attempt at humour that failed! ;)
I'm a bit of a "Quiet Maniac" myself! :mrgreen: Check out Des McHale's "The Complete Guide to the Quiet Man", btw.
T.
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30th January 06, 08:16 AM
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 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Not to start anything, but my experience has been the reverse. Our local (and now defunct) Celtic Society used to provide the colour party for the front of the local St. Patrick's Day parade, and we usually would get some semi-negative (and anti-Scots) comments from some of the more militant Irish. I remember being asked by one of them why the Scots were part of the Celtic Society, since only the Irish are "Celtic". (They really didn't like it when you would respond that neither was St. Patrick, since he was a Romano-Briton from either Wales or Scotland, take your pick!)
Now, that being said, I now plenty of folks of Irish heritage (many of them here) who are not that way at all. I don't like generalizations, though, and with many different ethnicities, states, provinces, countries, etc. designing their own tartans, I don't think it's fair to paint all Scots with that brush.
Green Beer...to quote Michaeleen Og Flynn in "The Quiet Man", "The Borgias could do better!" :mrgreen:
Cheers, 
Hmm, gotta be differences in locale: here in Denver (and back in Connecticut growing up, for that matter), St Padraig's day seems to foster a "the more the merrier" attitude. I've seen some of the older members of my clan society practically grilling people at the highland games, then dismissing them when it turns out they'd no affiliation w/ the clan; the best I can describe their behavior is "prickly". On the other hand, I've swapped shots of Glenmorangie for Jamesons from more than a few fellows with green tophats on their heads over the years.
Bryan...by the way, I only mentioned green beer-I didn't mean to imply I actually *drank* the stuff :-P
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30th January 06, 09:36 AM
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locale...
 Originally Posted by flyv65
Hmm, gotta be differences in locale: here in Denver (and back in Connecticut growing up, for that matter), St Padraig's day seems to foster a "the more the merrier" attitude. I've seen some of the older members of my clan society practically grilling people at the highland games, then dismissing them when it turns out they'd no affiliation w/ the clan; the best I can describe their behavior is "prickly". On the other hand, I've swapped shots of Glenmorangie for Jamesons from more than a few fellows with green tophats on their heads over the years.
Bryan...by the way, I only mentioned green beer-I didn't mean to imply I actually *drank* the stuff :-P
I think you hit on something: age, not locale -- I've seen that same attitude before working as a genealogical librarian -- being young and college educated makes you a marked man in that enviroment, let me tell you! ;)
Anyone is welcome at my clan tent at the games, Cumming/Comyn or no! :mrgreen:
T.
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