American flag kilt

**Pleater** · 3rd February 06, 05:45 AM

[QUOTE=kiltedjaz]This is what one American 'kiltmaker' did to the Stars and Stripes last year. I e-mailed them at the time just to say how poor I thought his 'skirts' were and that the 'Patriot Kilt' was really quite insulting to his country...

That isn't a kilt - the pleats appear to be folded backwards to normal and all the same size.

It might be constructed something like a woman's pleated skirt - but it looks awful.

I've done better pleating on curtains.

**646guy** · 3rd February 06, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by Pleater

This is what one American 'kiltmaker' did to the Stars and Stripes last year. I e-mailed them at the time just to say how poor I thought his 'skirts' were and that the 'Patriot Kilt' was really quite insulting to his country...

That isn't a kilt - the pleats appear to be folded backwards to normal and all the same size.

It might be constructed something like a woman's pleated skirt - but it looks awful.

I've done better pleating on curtains.

And it's butt ugly too....mayeb that's why I wear so many solids because I can't see myself doing wild patterns like that....

**davedove** · 3rd February 06, 06:06 AM

There's always the American Tartan:

**Planopiper** · 3rd February 06, 06:32 AM

To me, both of the tartans look good if you want to wear the colors. I think it would make a stronger, less ambiguous statement to wear a flag pin or patch than clothing with a flag design. I think that looks like a fashion statment as much as a patriotic one.

**Kilteado** · 3rd February 06, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by Pleater

That isn't a kilt

By the way it is not! That skirt reminded me of a flamenco dancer dress!

I somehow feel I ought to apologise for that - the fellow who helped finance one of the voyages of discovery - Cabot's I think - was called Americ - and he was armorigeous - his tomb is, I think, somewhere down in the West Country - of England, and you can visit it and see the stars and stripes on his shield.

Let's be serious, please. I've been taught that America is called this way because the maps used by Christopher Columbus were made by Americo Vespuccio, a italian geographer. Now a days, we know that before him there were already maps done by the chinese with the shape of America, and maybe Americo just copied those maps, but his name still lasts thanks to his friend Chris.

Pardon, I'm gone off topic.

**mddock58** · 3rd February 06, 06:38 AM

If there was a way to make a "tasteful" Stars and Stripes Kilt, I would think about it.

The local WalMart has red & white flag stripe twill, and the Blue star field twill.

By pleating it to the stripe (red) It would be a red kilt, and I would use the blue for the aprons. The white stripes would "flash".

But I think the whole thing would be WAY TOO BOLD!

Might be fun to try though!

**macwilkin** · 3rd February 06, 06:44 AM

I have to echo Matt and planopiper's sentiments about the US/St. Andrew's and American tartan; both are very striking, especially the former, which I have actually seen before as a kilt.

The maxim "just because you "can" do something, doesn't mean you shouldn't" applies here, IMHO. Yes, the flag code doesn't prohibit "flag-like" garments, only garments and other items made from the American flag, but for me, it's a matter of respect.

Cheers,

Todd

**michael steinrok** · 4th February 06, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by mddock58

If there was a way to make a "tasteful" Stars and Stripes Kilt, I would think about it.

The local WalMart has red & white flag stripe twill, and the Blue star field twill.

By pleating it to the stripe (red) It would be a red kilt, and I would use the blue for the aprons. The white stripes would "flash".

But I think the whole thing would be WAY TOO BOLD!

Might be fun to try though!

This is a very cool Idea.

If I do this it would be something like this. Think "uncle Angus" This is the kind of kilt you wear on the 4Th with a top hat and a beard!! You guys get it ? Some of you did. By the kilted Gods you guys wanna avoid that poor unfortunate kilt in that picture. I mean that's just sad.

**Pleater** · 5th February 06, 06:07 AM

Just my personal take on this - if someone really wanted a stars and stripes kilt design I would have a blue fabric with small amounts of red and white in the weft (vertical in the finished kilt) maybe two threads of colour two of blue then two of colour at intervals of one inch, colour alternating red and white. With such a small 'sett' the kilt could then be made with alternating pleats having a red or white line either centre or I would put it close to the fold so the alternate stripe flashed easily.

I might try having the same colour stripes one every 6 inches in the warp just to make it more tartanish, but I'd need to see it first.

At the edge of the apron I would attach a vertical band with two lines of small descrete stars on blue, and a fringe of mostly blue but with red and white included.

I would have the star band made with the proper number of stars(which I believe is 50?) in two counterchanged rows and then a blank strip so that the stars could be fitted onto - say 20 inches, and the blank area would then extend the band up to maybe 26 or 28 inches, plus a hem allowance.

This is of course making the kilt more flag like, but it would not be right to have parts of stars so each kilt must have its own full set of whole stars, and that being the case only the right number of stars would be correct.

**Robin** · 5th February 06, 06:38 AM

Wearing a country flag kilt is fine to me...although I'll never get one myself, because I think it's tasteless, pointless and tacky.

A flag represents a country....sitting on it is maybe not done, but hey!...we do more harm to the countries we live in...sitting on it won't make it worse I guess?

Just not my cup of tea...

;)