Not the nicest thing in the world to say

**Cinnabar** · 15th April 06, 06:13 PM

Please don't let that spoil your day. Who knows what crawled her @%^ and died. I would have told her she couldn't be scottish because scottish women aren't ______ (insert explicative of your choice). You are obviously much cooler headed than her (or me). Good for you.

**Alan H** · 15th April 06, 07:14 PM

I'm not Hindu, but I still think there's this thing called karma....

**pdcorlis** · 15th April 06, 07:24 PM

I'm sure what she said must have hurt and angered you greatly - but... it could be an opportunity to turn lemons into lemonaid. If you ever see her again and she was indeed a kiltmaker trained in Scotland, she may be able to offer you some valuable tips and tricks earned from years of kiltmaking experience.

I guess I'm just a glass is half full kinda guy...

**ronstew** · 15th April 06, 08:17 PM

I am slowly coming to realise that I should ask, "What good will come of this?" before I say something. Evidently this lady still hasn't got to that point in her life. It seems that you have, though, MacHummel.

You showed that whatever your respective beliefs about kilts, you are the bigger person.

Besides, you are not claiming that you are making traditional kilts. You are giving your customers exactly what they want.

**longshadows** · 16th April 06, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by pdcorlis

I'm sure what she said must have hurt and angered you greatly - but... it could be an opportunity to turn lemons into lemonaid. If you ever see her again and she was indeed a kiltmaker trained in Scotland, she may be able to offer you some valuable tips and tricks earned from years of kiltmaking experience.

I guess I'm just a glass is half full kinda guy...

Phil, I like whatever's in your "glass!" Excellent thoughts; and MacHummel, you're to be commended for your "presence" at that difficult and no doubt painful moment.

Yet, I wonder how much of her anger comes from her "loss" (the fact that she is growing old and unable to see and use the needle to craft something she obviously feels strongly about). It's amazing how some people can re-direct their own anger. If you could re-connect with her and see if there is any way to transform her sense of loss and anger into something beneficial to you both, she might be a good source of advice to you (if you felt you could work with her) and it might make her feel better about herself and your products.

I don't know, maybe it's wishful/romantic thinking on my part, but wouldn't it be nice if you both benefited from this encounter.

**MacHummel** · 16th April 06, 10:14 AM

These are my exact sentiments
I hope to be able to meet up with her again I'm sure I will and hopfully create a bridge. It's not fun to be angry I try to be a positive person and always hope for the best.
By the way has anyone told you folks that XMarkers rule you folks have been a great source not only for kilts but for making people feel better, and giving courage to some who need it .
Thank You
I hold a dram to all of you

**longshadows** · 16th April 06, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by MacHummel

By the way has anyone told you folks that XMarkers rule you folks have been a great source not only for kilts but for making people feel better, and giving courage to some who need it.

I think it's what's called a "mutual support group," but isn't that what we're all here for anyway--be it on this forum or in each aspect of our lives: to help each other. (We're just a bit more focused here on XMarks

)

mp

**Kilted KT** · 16th April 06, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by longshadows

I think it's what's called a "mutual support group," but isn't that what we're all here for anyway--be it on this forum or in each aspect of our lives: to help each other. (We're just a bit more focused here on XMarks

)

mp

I'm sure we are called Xmarks because "Kilties Anonymous" sounds a bit off...definitly serves the same purpose, though.

**macwilkin** · 16th April 06, 06:37 PM

Whilst I never endorse anyone being rude to anyone else, especially in this case -- this woman soulds a lot like some of the patrons at my job as a Genealogy librarian -- I would ask everyone to please not judge all traditionalists, myself included, by her standards. I've read some subtle digs at traditionalists in some of the replies here, and even though I am a 100% "dyed-in-the-wool" traditionalist, I would never dream of telling anyone who wears a modern or casual kilt that they were wrong, a disgrace, etc. The modern variants are not right for me, but I would never dream of being rude to anyone. For me, the kilt is a traditional Scottish garment, and I personally like traditional things -- I certainly respect other's perogative to choose something else; all I ask is for that respect to be reciprocated.

Sorry, I just had to post that before we had a round of "bash the traditionalist" here.

Regards,

Todd

**auld argonian** · 16th April 06, 06:49 PM

I don't know that anyone is going to bash the traditionalists but the woman's behavior was totally off the wall. I don't get these oldsters that bemoan the lack of civility in our society and then seem to feel free to go on derogatory rants whenever they feel like it...I run into quite a few of them and I consider myself rather polite and not deserving of any of their nonsense.

Sorry that they're old but that doesn't give them the right to be rude.

Best

AA