Twill Question...

[Blu (Ontario)]

[QUOTE=RockyR]as you lay fabric on a table and have the selvedge edge away from you and the top of the kilt near you, the lines should go \\\\ this way \\\\[/QUOTE]

The twill lines on my kilt ran ////. I do agree with Barb T. as I didn't notice until recently... and I doubt that few people other than kiltmakers would ever notice or care.

... Sometimes when you get the cloth in from the mill there are slight pulls and knots on one side of the cloth.

Fortunately the cloth on this kilt does not have any significant flaws on the wrong side. I thought it was interesting that a large well know kiltmaker would let this sort of thing happen. :rolleyes:

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[MacWage]

After reading this thread, I decided to look at Tartan web sites and noticed that they go BOTH ways. The Scottish Tartans Authority website actually shows most (at least every one I looked up like:////

Also, A pic I appropriated (stole) from a kiltmaker website to use as Wall paper has it: //// (looking at it beside my window NOW! (It's X Marks Tartan -I think and the maker is Canadian-> That's all I'll say)


If I am thinking right, the angle either viewed sevage down and cut/rip up or cut/rip down and sevage up should be the SAME (only changing at a 90 degree angle of flipping back to front).

I know Barb (in person and in book) has it going: \\\\\


Yet, I find it hard to call the Scottish Tartans Authority website wrong.
Is it, or does it really matter?

[Barb T]

But in a square of fabric, you can't tell whether the warp or the weft is horizontal. If you just rotate a square 90 degrees, what is left-slanting becomes right slanting, even you don't flip the piece over. So, I don't think looking at how someone has a square tartan swatch oriented means much.

Barb

[The Wizard of BC]

Just to throw a monkey wrench into this thread.

If you look at the fabrics used in Contemporary Kilts the Twill lines almost always run //// and there is no chance of reversing the fabric because there is no Twill line on the reverse side.

And if it was my site you stole the picture from, first, I want it back, there is now a big white empty space on my website. And secondly, I didn't care to properly align the Twill for the little photo, I was tired, I was in a hurry to take the photo, and I live in Canada now, even the toilet water runs down the wrong way up here 'cause heaven forbid we do ANYTHING like I used to do when I was down among you Amuricans.

[MacWage]

It's such a nice desk to-> gets great compliments!


I didn't know or notice that many of the modern kilts and fabric was ///!
Thanks for the info,now I'm more informed.

Your in good company, along with the STA!!! The purpose was to demonstrate that beautiful, wonderful, patch (image-> me salivating). That was/is the PERFECT TARTAN,I didn't notice, until I say it along side the above posts. I now need it to satisfy me until I get what I really want! You can get it back then (I guess I'm and "imagenapper")!

When I can afford them (too much kilt related buying-> now in moritorium)
I WANT SOME PATcHES-> THEY ARE COOOOOOLLLL!!!!!!!!!!![



By the way, watch out for those sneaky Canadians! They are planning to conquer the US through the BACK (North) DOOR! Lead the US into complaciency, then ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

[RockyR]

Does it REALLY matter? to answer the question...

1. Are there anyvisible flaws on the "bad" side? No? Then it doesn't really matter.
2. Since 8 yarders are usually 2 pieces (3 if you count the waistband strip), do all the PIECES run the same way? Yes? Then it's OK.

1 more monkey wrench... when it comes to PV KILTS, it DOES matter. The teflon coating is only on 1 side... the \\\\ side.

Would any NORMAL person notice this? Probably not. Barb and Steve and Matt and I do b/c we're STARING at this fabric for up to 25 hours while making a kilt. Even if the kilt IS made inside out, think about this... how long have you had it and not noticed? Has anyone ELSE ever commented on it? Don't worry about it... enjoy wearing it.

[RockyR]

Hey Robert, which way do the twill lines run on Leather kilts? HAHAHAHA

[RockyR]

But in a square of fabric, you can't tell whether the warp or the weft is horizontal. If you just rotate a square 90 degrees, what is left-slanting becomes right slanting, even you don't flip the piece over. So, I don't think looking at how someone has a square tartan swatch oriented means much.

Barb

ditto... the STA may have taken the picture at 90 degrees from the horizontal making the lines lean ///

[Scottish Chi]

Although it may be a minor issue today with modern techniques, I think it is nice to know everything is in proper order even down to the smallest detail. When purchasing something as expensive and personal as a traditional kilt it is good to know that the kiltmaker will take such a care and pride in the quality of their work that they make sure every detail is proper. This is why I prefer to have some knowledge of the kiltmaker and their integrity. Would I know if some short cuts were taken? Not at this time. However, in the future as I become more knowledgable I might and although I would still be pleased with my kilt there would then be a little less "shine".

I understand the need for large mills and stores to have something like an assembly line for making kilts in order to keep the cost down. However, like any other pieces of art (painting, sculpture, etc.) I prefer not to have my traditional kilt be a group effort.

Cheers! Bill

[Kiltman]

I was just looking at my kilt Kollection and discovered that the two kilts I have from Lochcarron seem to be made with the twill running the opposite direction from the ones made by other manufacturers. I have Barb's book and the ones from Lochcarron definitely run the other way from what she suggests. My one kilt made while I was in Scotland runs the way Barb suggests. What gives?:confused: