Some thoughts from Non-Kilt folks...

**kiltedjaz** · 20th July 06, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by pbpersson

I STILL say that a kilt is nothing more than a pleated skirt for men.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

I think you need to look a wee bit closer to home for a 'pleated' skirt for men....try 'Utilliskirts' of Seattle. (sorry just a wee typo error there...it should read Usillyskirts).

Mind you they're not really kilts in the most accepted form of the meaning of the word. Just a pair of coulottes with one leghole !!!!

**Rigged** · 20th July 06, 08:37 PM

I think you need to look a wee bit closer to home for a 'pleated' skirt for men....try 'Utilliskirts' of Seattle. (sorry just a wee typo error there...it should read Usillyskirts).

Mind you they're not really kilts in the most accepted form of the meaning of the word. Just a pair of coulottes with one leghole !!!!

As a female co-worker related to me seeing a plaid-kilted man on my screensaver, "Oh, a kilt! We girls had to wear those in highschool!"

**Kilted_John** · 20th July 06, 09:30 PM

Hey, Rigged,

Firstly, welcome back.

Anyway, I hope you told her that it was something a bit different, in that it actually was a kilt and not a miniskirt... ;-)

-J

**Kiltman** · 20th July 06, 10:22 PM

What interesting comments. I read through them all. Good to hear that the AT has kilted hikers. Great references to the Adirondacks, etc. If I had more time, I would join that group.

**Ugly Bear** · 21st July 06, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by kiltedjaz

I think you need to look a wee bit closer to home for a 'pleated' skirt for men....try 'Utilliskirts' of Seattle. (sorry just a wee typo error there...it should read Usillyskirts).

Mind you they're not really kilts in the most accepted form of the meaning of the word. Just a pair of coulottes with one leghole !!!!

No, they're kilts. It says so right on them.

I can understand you being upset that the kilt has been re-made for modern times by non-Scots. How ashamed you must feel. Still, your bitterness amuses me.

**kiltedjaz** · 21st July 06, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by Ugly Bear

No, they're kilts. It says so right on them.

I can understand you being upset that the kilt has been re-made for modern times by non-Scots. How ashamed you must feel. Still, your bitterness amuses me.

Hi there UB.

If you took time to read my post properly...what I said was...
'they're not really kilts in the most accepted form of the meaning of the word'
When most people, certainly here in the UK, (and I suspect, in most parts of the world) talk about a kilt they think of a tradionally styled Scottish, Welsh or Irish KILT.
By that comment I think that the term 'kilt' should not be applied to any other type of unbifurcated garment. OK the dictionary definition may say 'pleated skirt' BUT common usage of the word still tends to mean the traditionally styled (male) garment.
If Utilikilts marketed their product as 'skirts for men' or something similar, they would have sold VERY few. The astute businessman, of course, called them 'kilts' so that they would appear attractive to male customers. A VERY clever marketing ploy in hijacking the term most commonly associated with traditional Celtic kilts.

There are 'modern', traditionally styled kilts around and many of them appear quite acceptable and are, rightly so, called kilts. Sold at prices more people can afford.

I dislike Utilikilts for many reasons other than their name, but that's another story.

I'm so pleased you found my 'bitterness' amusing, at least I made somebody happy today.

Regards
James

**Graham** · 21st July 06, 06:51 AM

Interesting site Blu, more positive than negative, made me think of what they are missing out on hiking without a kilt. There is some refreshing honesty there, but I would expect nothing less from people who love hiking.

**Mike1** · 21st July 06, 07:12 AM

Ugly Bear and kiltedjaz, take a couple of deep breaths and agree to disagree.

**Aggie** · 21st July 06, 07:34 AM

I think the thread sounded positive overall. There might be more kilted hikers out there in the future. That "chicks in dresses" video had me doubled over. Excellent!

**cavscout** · 21st July 06, 07:49 AM

I'm shocked that people who do "a lot" of hiking would have a hard time understanding the benfits of wearing a kilt while hiking. I guess they never have to pee :rolleyes: It did seem to be an option for most though.

Let's keep this thread about kilts and hiking. There could be a lot of good discussion on this.

Save the Kilt or not and the skirt vs kilt arguments for the well beaten threads in other areas. Those truly get boring and always end in the same place. If you feel the need to discuss that, do a search and find one of the many other times it has been brought up and add to that thread. please.