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[pbpersson]

Actaully, I don't think it's ok. Many women will think they are being cute or funny, but I take it seriously, and have had to theaten them with legal charges after they repeatedly tries to lift my kilt. I don't find it amusing, and I get very serious about it.

SO....how do they react? Do they think that men in kilts are somehow "asking for it" to happen to them?

They must assume that a guy in a kilt is out looking for that sort of attention....or something like that.

It seems so paradoxical that a women would think that it was okay to lift a skirt-like garment to see what is underneath. :confused:

[David Dalglish]

I had it happen to me at my golf club dinner when I was the captain, I did not think it was funny, & to be perfectly honest, downright embarrasing especially at a Black tie Function. If I had done it to a lady, at the dinner, I would have been classed a pervert, or arrested

[pbpersson]

I had it happen to me at my golf club dinner when I was the captain, I did not think it was funny, & to be perfectly honest, downright embarrasing especially at a Black tie Function. If I had done it to a lady, at the dinner, I would have been classed a pervert, or arrested

How did you react? What did you say? Was it a male or female who did it? Did you tell them they can go to jail for that?

See....I'm curious how the laws are written on this but I would think that they would be written to be gender neutral and in such a way that lifting a kilt would be the exact same thing as pulling your pants down in a public place.

Perhaps we should remind these people that lifting a kilt is just like pulling someone's pants down - there is no difference. Maybe they just need to grow up in my opinion and get a life.

[TimC]

YES!! Someone else that feels my pain....why is it that when a young "lady" gets all flirty wants to 'check under the hood', it's our fault?? We tell them "NO" and explain we have a girlfriend/wife and yet we're bound to receive the cold shoulder because of their actions? Honestly, can we help it if our legs that damn good in a kilt? :-)

-Tim

[Jimmy the Celt]

It's very curious that some women feel they can kilt-check a man, and be expected to laugh it off, or be tittilated perhaps. However, there is no question that if a man were to lift a woman's skirt, we risk being sued, arrested, or derided as a pervert (or all of the above).

It seems to me that if women want equal rights, we ought to be able to look up any lassie's skirt, or ask about her underwear without any consequence; but that is absurd. We do not treat women that way out of respect and propriety. So how is it different for a woman to treat a man that way?

The kilt does draw attention at times (though most don't seem to even notice) because kilted chaps are not a common sight today. But does the "novelty" of seeing a kilted bloke over ride the sense of respect and propriety that we should have for others? Apparently, some think so, but it doesn't seem right.

Having said that, I haven't been asked "the question" yet (being kilted less than a week), but a good response is to say something like, "I beg your pardon?" It may be fun to joke around a bit, and that's okay in some cases, but it seems rude to me to ask about whether or not you are wearing undergarments; afterall, when is the last time you asked a strange woman if they are wearing knickers? (If you were drunk it doesn't count )

So maybe next time you are in that situation, you should slap the girl on the *** and ask, "Are you wearing a thong?" [edit] I'm sure you all probably realize that was meant tongue in cheek; I think that illustrates the point well. [edit]

James

[Chris Webb]

Personally I love being 'kilt checked' and consider it one of the more enjoyable benefits of kilting ... as long as the kilt check is done from the back!! Seems to me that any man willing to wear a kilt, given how it is made, has to be comfortable with the possiblity that someone is going to see his ****. I've said it before, nothing looks more feminine than some guy slapping at the back of his kilt no matter what is lifting it up.

Now the front is a different matter.

Like it or not the rules for men and women are different ... it's those differences that make it so much fun to ....

Kilt On!

Chris Webb

(post edited prior to validation - Mike)

[Jimmy the Celt]

Personally I love being 'kilt checked' and consider it one of the more enjoyable benefits of kilting ... as long as the kilt check is done from the back!! Seems to me that any man willing to wear a kilt, given how it is made, has to be comfortable with the possiblity that someone is going to see his ****. I've said it before, nothing looks more feminine than some guy slapping at the back of his kilt no matter what is lifting it up.

Now the front is a different matter.

Like it or not the rules for men and women are different ... it's those differences that make it so much fun to ....

Kilt On!

Chris Webb

(post edited prior to validation - Mike)

In general, I agree with you. But it's just the idea (and I am by no means sexist) that the rules are so different. The whole issue of equal rights, (which I believe is one of the reaons women began wearing trousers) means exactly that: equal rights. And yet the same women who demanded an equal footing with men in the workplace and out cling to certain "safeguards" between men and women.

At any rate, there are probably going to be women I won't mind obliging with an answer. It will depend on the situation. I doona mind if a lass sees me ****; I wanted to illustrate the absurdity of the issue on the whole.

James

[Andrew Green]

This was all very well said. I can say that I haven't been kilt checked yet, although my girlfriend seemed to like harassing me in such ways. Of course, to me, this is most of the time acceptable (unless in public). I totally agree with the idea that it is not proper for a woman to try and "kilt check" a guy (unless you are in a scneario where a) you think it is ok, or b) it's wanted), as guys most certainly can't pantie check a woman without relatively severe consequences for such a "playful" action. Double standards... pretty simple, and a bit irritating if I may say so. Granted this is nothing more than agreeing with the above viewpoints (98% of the time anyhow, as there may always be circumstances where a guy won't mind)...but I figured that I would put my say in. I didn't join the forum for nothing!

[kilted in kleaveland]

Personally I love being 'kilt checked' and consider it one of the more enjoyable benefits of kilting ... as long as the kilt check is done from the back!! Seems to me that any man willing to wear a kilt, given how it is made, has to be comfortable with the possiblity that someone is going to see his ****. I've said it before, nothing looks more feminine than some guy slapping at the back of his kilt no matter what is lifting it up.

Now the front is a different matter.

Like it or not the rules for men and women are different ... it's those differences that make it so much fun to ....

Kilt On!

Chris Webb

(post edited prior to validation - Mike)

Chris while I can agree that it can be appropriate to certain situations ( when it is wanted etc. ) It is definately not acceptable behavior to try to kilt check a man ( from the front ) in front of his " She who must be obeyed ". My wife is a fiery one who is also formidable. I do NOT want to deal with an asault charge or an agry wife when I'm out for a good time.

[davedove]

I think the problem is that it is difficult to determine the line between playing around and totally inappropriate. In the right situation, I don't mind the occassional kilt check. But, there are definitely many times when it is completely inappropriate.

It seems that some people (men and women both) think that just because a man is in a kilt, that it is always appropriate. You can tell this from their attitudes. If confronted, it is like they can't believe you would object. I think their attitude is "if you wear the kilt, you should expect it."

Unless kilts become more mainstream, I'm not sure how much that attitude will change. I don't think physical violence is the answer. That my help the individual, because he will get the reputation, but doesn't really help kilt wearers in general. Besides, I don't want to be thought of as a violent person just because I wear a kilt. Maybe we do need a few arrests on "sexual assault" charges to make people think twice.