No more Kilts for me

[Colin]

I agree with Bubba. I don't wear kilts to prove a point or to promote someone else's cause. I wear them for heritage sake and because I want to. I get tired of this "but you should wear them everywhere all the time" mentality. The cause mentality is one of the things (among other big issues) that drove alot of people away from Tom's. There is a lot more important issues to me that need to be fought for.

I don't think it is appropriate to call someone's decision on kiltwearing or their preference "stupid". Alot of us have nothing to prove with kiltwearing, and personally, I would rather wear the kilt for a reason and look good rather than to throw something together and wear a kilt just because it's Tuesday. I wear baggy shorts and t-shirts to work somedays and I know I don't represent myself as well in public. When I wear kilts, I want to put that extra effort in, so that I do represent myself, my family, and my heritage well.

Good call Raphael, if it doesn't work for you at work, leave for at home and when you are on "your" time.

[pbpersson]

I don't think it is appropriate to call someone's decision on kiltwearing or their preference "stupid".

I hope you weren't referring to my use of the word "stupid". I don't think it is stupid if someone feels they are more productive wearing pants. What I think is stupid is the following line of reasoning:

WOMEN: At work you can wear whatever makes you most productive. Dresses, skirts, pants, whatever you want - the choice is yours.

MEN: You can only wear trousers, if you wear anything else you are fired and if you are not productive you are fired.

Right now I am at a job where for the first time in four years I can't wear shorts and I can't stay awake because I find pants so uncomfortable and hot. I should see if I can bring in a fan and put it under my desk and have it blowing on my pants. I know some companies say that is a fire hazard.

On the other hand.....I don't know if I like the idea of kilts for men being reduced to "play clothes" and never being taken seriously either. :confused:

[Colin]

I hope you weren't referring to my use of the word "stupid". I don't think it is stupid if someone feels they are more productive wearing pants. What I think is stupid is the following line of reasoning:

WOMEN: At work you can wear whatever makes you most productive. Dresses, skirts, pants, whatever you want - the choice is yours.

MEN: You can only wear trousers, if you wear anything else you are fired and if you are not productive you are fired.

Right now I am at a job where for the first time in four years I can't wear shorts and I can't stay awake because I find pants so uncomfortable and hot. I should see if I can bring in a fan and put it under my desk and have it blowing on my pants. I know some companies say that is a fire hazard.

On the other hand.....I don't know if I like the idea of kilts for men being reduced to "play clothes" and never being taken seriously either. :confused:

That makes more sense. On the first read thought, it was not clear that you were refering to the policy rather than Raphael's decision or post. I just sticking up for individual thought. I obviously misread the statement.

[Blu (Ontario)]

I don't wear kilts to work either and I honestly don't think that it diminishes my enjoyment of the kilt experience one bit.

It's a choice one must make based on personal circumstances.... Raphael is making the right decision for his situation and gets full marks from me.

Colins point regarding the "cause" mentality is right on target.

blu

[macwilkin]

I don't wear kilts to work either and I honestly don't think that it diminishes my enjoyment of the kilt experience one bit.

It's a choice one must make based on personal circumstances.... Raphael is making the right decision for his situation and gets full marks from me.

Colins point regarding the "cause" mentality is right on target.

blu

Same here, Blu. I wear my kilt very rarely to work, usually when I am giving some sort of presentation for a local organization on Scottish heritage, or Tartan Day, etc.

My kilt is special to me because it symbolises my family heritage. If I have a "cause" associated with kilt-wearing, it is to promote Scottish heritage and culture, and Scottish contributions to the USA. But that is a personal cause only.

Colin raises a very good point about those who push their agenda of wearing a kilt FT on others; while I would never begrudge someone who does wear a kilt FT (more power to them, I say), it's not for me. The majority of FT'ers here, though, are not that way.

Cheers,

Todd

[Southern Breeze]

I'll have to say that I agree with Bubba and Colins posts on this. Follow what YOU feel is right.

[Mike1]

I don't wear kilts on a daily basis and have no real desire to do so. The type of work I do, I think I would feel the same as Raphael, less productive in a kilt.

As a matter of fact, it's been 2-3 weeks since I last wore a kilt.

I've no problem with the guys that wear them daily, whatever works for them is OK with me, even if it is not necessarily what works for me.

[Streetcar]

I think it's perfectly understandable.

When I worked uniformed patrol, taking off the uniform was part of the "decompression" process. It helped keep me from "taking my work home with me," so to speak.

Now that I'm in plainclothes, I still feel the same way. When I get home, I can't wait to change into something else (anything else!) just to mentally put my work behind me.

[bubba]

It's all simply a matter of what works for the individual. You'll have a helluva fight getting me back into jeans again, but that's my preference. We all know there are some things that preclude wearing a kilt. You wouldn't crawl under a car in a kilt (if you can help it) and even if kilts are permitted at work you wouldn't wear one if it reduced your effectiveness at your job. We all make choices based on what we're comfortable with and what we can do. Since raph feels wearing a kilt at work adversely affects his job performance his decision is the right one for him. As I've said before, kilt wearing isn't about causes and crusades, it's simply about clothing. Wear what works for you.

[pbpersson]

This is my fear:

If everyone thinks that a kilt should not be worn at work let's say that it should only be worn for "special" ocassions like maybe a trip to the local pub or a highland gathering rather than a valid fashion choice for all situations.

If women had thought that way they would still be forced to wear skirts and dresses at work.

I happen to believe that if kilts are more comfortable that trousers should be burned and reduced to a few pages in a history book somewhere.

I mean....if someone does not want to be comfortable at work that's okay as well but I hope the majority of the people on this forum don't feel that way.

I'm already surprised to hear so many agreeing with the concept that the kilt should be reduced to a "party-only garment" as opposed to an acceptable alternative to trousers.


Phil