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    Quote Originally Posted by MacTavishOfJapan
    Just to be a pedantic sod, Oban is a town, there are only six cities (Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Inverness, Dundee and Stirling) in Scotland as the monarch has to decree city status. I actually think I read somewhere that neither Edinburgh or Glasgow are 'cities' but Royal Burghs (sp?). Weird how the old UK works.
    To be really pendandic, is the criterion for "city" the same in Scotland as it is in England, ie is there a requirement that the settlement have a cathedral?

    For those interested in the meaning of "burgh," the Wikipedia is always a good reference (see entry for burgh.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechBear
    To be really pendandic, is the criterion for "city" the same in Scotland as it is in England, ie is there a requirement that the settlement have a cathedral?

    For those interested in the meaning of "burgh," the Wikipedia is always a good reference (see entry for burgh.)
    There are two "types" of city, cathederal city and, I suppose, a legal city. Oban has a cathederal but isn't officially a city. All very confusing. Here's the section of wikipedia about city status in Scotland. Stirling, Scotland's newest city, has never had a cathederal.
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    St Andrews is a city too!

    It was always considered to be one when I was a student there because of its cathedral, albeit in ruins.

    There is a mosaic memorial to polish soldiers on the corner of Queens Gardens and South St which says "To St Andrews City" on it also.

    There are various sites on the web confirming its city status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McClef
    There are various sites on the web confirming its city status.
    Does it have letters patent from the monarch? Then it's a cathederal city (town) along with Dunblane et al!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacTavishOfJapan
    There are two "types" of city, cathederal city and, I suppose, a legal city. Oban has a cathederal but isn't officially a city. All very confusing. Here's the section of wikipedia about city status in Scotland. Stirling, Scotland's newest city, has never had a cathederal.
    Thanks for the link!

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    They are MacHummels at CCK. The hardest thing making kilts for these guys is the need to stay on but can't have buckles. He had to make them out of PV to be easily cleaned and with velcro instead of the usual 2 or 3 buckels.
    He's made quite a few for them and is always talking to them about what to do next.

    Kilted Stuart

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    Regarding Oban - it has two cathedrals, the Episcopal St John's which is 19th century and the Catholic St Columba's which is 1930s.

    Neither is based therefore on an ancient ecclesiastical foundation from "time immemorial" and therefore neither confers city status on Oban.

    Stirling is a city by letters patent.

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    Those guys are the nicest couple of guys, they worked hard to get where they are and I very thankful that they took a chance on a guy they bumped into .
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