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19th October 06, 11:45 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Schultz
Most tux shirts are made for bow ties, so you'd have to bend a bit there as far as shirts go.
IMHO, a PC doesn't look right unless one is wearing a bowtie. The vest isn't wide enough in front to accomodate much anything else.
I'd also ditch the fly plaid, but I also don't like them at all outside of a parade.
As far as hosed go, if you can get a pair of argyle ones (and/or don't mind the expense) to match your kilt, that'd be the bee's knees, as it were.
The big question should be: what is dress of the wedding party, then go from there. Since it is an outdoor wedding, most likely it is going to be in the daytime. Wearing evening wear, especially such a formal garment as the Prince Charlie, for an outside wedding in the day, is a bit of a "sticky wicket": while many folks do it, evening wear is really for...well, the evening. And yes, I wore my PC at a late-afternoon wedding, but if I could do it over, I would have worn a day jacket with waistcoat.
Regards,
Todd
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19th October 06, 11:56 AM
#2
For my wedding I had my groomsmen and myself wearing Daytime jackets with vest, white dress shirts, and black silk neckties....(I had a silver tie)....
It looked great and even more important...
We didn't take away from the bride (Remeber it's her day!!!!) by being too dressy (PC jackets with all the buttons)
It was an outdoor day/evening wedding....so the look was good for both times of the day.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Saol fada aqus...rath ort[/FONT]
"Live long and prosper"
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19th October 06, 11:56 AM
#3
Well, as father of the bride, you could always go with a jabot.
It's very formal, but it looks great. My father-in-law sported one for my son's wedding this July. He really looked like the patriarch of the family.
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/frjohnpe...03254283411/21
For my part, I have such a long beard that I didn't even wear a tie, and no one could tell.
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/frjohnpe...803254245606/5
Here were all the kilted gents in one pic. Alot of variety, and the party is formal.
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/frjohnpe...03254200329/32
Congratulations by the way. I don't think you can go wrong.
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19th October 06, 12:11 PM
#4
smaughazard,
Congratulations on your daughter's upcoming wedding.
Here are my two cents on your daytime wedding attire.
Buy a black argyle with waistcoat (the waistcoat gives flexibility to dress up or down the jacket) You will find greater use for an argyle in your day to day life than a PC. If you can't have both, go with the more flexible one.
Wear a regular white dress shirt and a tie.
If you are not the groom, don't bother with a flyplaid (magnifiicent looking as they are)
I personally would go with some very nice* white hose (to dress up the outfit) or pick a color from the tartan to match (to dress down).
Hope this was of some assistance
Cheers
* do get nice quality wool or wool blend hose though, they really do look great compared to the acrylic.
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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19th October 06, 01:43 PM
#5
Thanks for all the advice so far!
I should clarify a couple of points: the wedding is at 7PM in a well-lit formal garden (the groom, his father, and the groomsmen will be in tuxes) so I thought that the PC would be most appropriate. Also, the younger daughter has no wedding plans as yet, but tends to be more formal than her sister- so my thought is that her wedding will probably be more elaborate as well, and that a PC will be appropriate at that time.
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19th October 06, 05:33 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by smaughazard
Thanks for all the advice so far!
I should clarify a couple of points: the wedding is at 7PM in a well-lit formal garden (the groom, his father, and the groomsmen will be in tuxes) so I thought that the PC would be most appropriate. Also, the younger daughter has no wedding plans as yet, but tends to be more formal than her sister- so my thought is that her wedding will probably be more elaborate as well, and that a PC will be appropriate at that time.
Smaughy, The PC is most appropriate here. So is a black or silver bow tie (sorry). Sounds like you are on the money with this one. 7 PM wedding and other members of the wedding party in tuxes you're good to go.
Seven PM weddings are usually formal and I don't think that some here ( no offense) realize just how formal Southern weddings are. Typically southern weddings are as follows:
11:00 AM - Morning attire - Silver and tails - no real correlation with Scottish attire that I know of.
12:00 PM - High Mass - Seriously formal - usually 2 - 3 hours long - Black Tie or PC is fine. Women wear long dark (as in black) colored gowns unless outdoors. Then cranberry, navy or red will work.
1:00 PM - Slightly less formal - Tea length (dark) dresses and "Day Wear" for the guys.
2:00 or 3:00 PM - Don't go there unless you have to but if you do follow the 1:00 PM dress code.
4:00 PM Same as 1:00 PM - Semi formal day wear BUT the bridesmaides can wear pastels.
5:00 PM - Try not to but if you have to then go with darker tea length for the bridesmaids and tuxes for the men.
6:00 PM - back to formal. Tuxes ( or PC's) for the men and long gowns for the ladies
7:00 PM - Eveningwear - No if's and's or but's. (indoors or out) NO morningcoats!
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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19th October 06, 05:57 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by starbkjrus
. . .
Seven PM weddings are usually formal and I don't think that some here ( no offense) realize just how formal Southern weddings are. Typically southern weddings are as follows:
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Starbkjrus -- this is an interesting read. I don't think I've ever seen a compiled list like this. Where did you find it?
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19th October 06, 07:44 PM
#8
Sounds like the PC is the perfect choice.
Wear the bowtie. Wear the flyplaid if you like. White hose -ok, off-white - better, argyll, only if you're in a production of Brigadoon.
My opinion, for what little it might be worth.
Virtus Ad Aethera Tendit
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20th October 06, 10:01 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by mkmound
Starbkjrus -- this is an interesting read. I don't think I've ever seen a compiled list like this. Where did you find it?
Well....actually I grew up in one of those old Southern families that this sort of thing is just ingrained; those are just the rules that I grew up with. The Wilkses and O'haras would be proud. :rolleyes:
Actually, after re-reading the post it seems just a bit overly emphatic and I didn't mean it to be. Just the way I was taught to do it.
BTW - that's attire for the extended wedding party and not neccesarily for the guests. It also varies a bit by season but since everyone should marry in June then that shouldn't matter too much.
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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23rd October 06, 07:57 AM
#10
Well, I have the exact opposite opinion of some I've read here, so rather than confuse the issue I'll just mention one thing worth considering. As father of the bride, you're a supporting character. Be careful not to upstage the stars by dressing in a way to distract attention from them.
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