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27th October 06, 02:34 AM
#1
I like it!!!
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27th October 06, 07:30 AM
#2
a k
I like the pattern and think it would look very cool. I'm also impresssed that you have the skill and speed to just make one up on the spot. But based on my experience with chainmail (I have a friend who made himself a mail shirt, and coifs for both of us) I wouldn't want to wear it next to my kilt. We often discuss how the single VERY smooth chromed dress chains that often come with sporrans promotes undue wear on our kilts. The steel rings will not be nearly as smooth and there will be a lot more of them. I think that your belt is going to abraid the fabric of your kilt. I would also be very concerned about the oxidation leaving marks on the fabric. For those you not familiar with chainmail the rings eventually look like this:

My thanks to Mick, the wooden head for modelling my coif while I took the picture
From what my friend told me one can brighten the links again by puting the piece in a can with sand and shaking it to remove the oxidation.
It's a neat idea, and I have seen some fancy variations on the metal chain strap out there, but they have always been chromed (for smoothness as well as looks).
Just my opinion
Cheers
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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27th October 06, 07:41 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Panache
My thanks to Mick, the wooden head for modelling my coif while I took the picture
HAHAHAHHA! I can see how he got his name. The resemblence is remarkable.
Virtus Ad Aethera Tendit
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27th October 06, 07:52 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Panache
I think that your belt is going to abraid the fabric of your kilt.
No joke. I've seen what butted-link mail can do to Sunforger and heavier canvas. I don't even want to imagine what it would do to worsted wool.
 Originally Posted by Panache
From what my friend told me one can brighten the links again by puting the piece in a can with sand and shaking it to remove the oxidation.
It's much easier to put the mail in a five-gallon paint bucket with a few handfuls of fine sand and a cup or two of vineger, then carefully roll it down a good hill. A "period" alternative is to put the mail into a heavy canvas bag with some sand and some straw, and hand it to your squires to use as a "medicine ball" for some exercise for an hour or two.
I've made quite a lot of mail over the years, and I have to say this - galvanized steel wire is absolutely the worst stuff you can make it out of. The zinc oxide that forms is abrasive by itself, you can't simply heat the stuff up and let it off-gas without risking metal vapor poisoning, and the gray is nearly impossible to get out of cloth.
Add that to the varying methods of cutting the links (I prefer to square-cut the ends with a Dremel slitting wheel) and you've got a recipe to absolutely destroy a nice wool kilt.
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27th October 06, 08:30 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Caradoc
... A "period" alternative is to put the mail into a heavy canvas bag with some sand and some straw, and hand it to your squires to use as a "medicine ball" for some exercise for an hour or two...
Hey I've got a squire!
"Sinbad! Come over here! Dad has a new ball for you to play with!"
Cheers
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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27th October 06, 08:41 AM
#6
Yeh I was afraid that it mgiht rub on the kilt resulting in stains or worse tears. I plan on wearign thi around for about a week with ym cheap sportkilt just to see what happens. One thing i am considerign is using precut stainless steel rings that i can buy. Not only would they have smooth closures but they won't oxidze like galvanized will. If anyone si interested in a strap with these changes made let me know. I can make these and ship them out within threedays from the order.
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27th October 06, 08:45 AM
#7
Can you post a picture of the other style of rings? I'm toying with an idea for my leather straps where I might could incorporate this.
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27th October 06, 09:52 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Panache
Hey I've got a squire!
"Sinbad! Come over here! Dad has a new ball for you to play with!"
Cheers
hahahaha i dindnt knowit was in ya!
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27th October 06, 10:34 AM
#9
I admire your talent, but there is absolutely no way I would ever allow such a chain anywhere near any of my kilts! My fellow X Markers know well of my aversion to and dislike of sporran chains for day wear. Over the years I have seen horrendous damage done to kilt aprons (in particular) caused by the inappropriate wearing of even single chain straps - which were originally designed for dress wear with silver cantled sporrans. That chain straps are nowadays supplied, almost by default, with day-wear sporrans, is verging on the criminal to my mind.
Beautiful craftsmanship but, please, not with a sporran!
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27th October 06, 10:49 AM
#10
You could always mount the maille onto a leather strap!
Mark Dockendorf
Left on the Right Coast
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