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                                                1st November 06, 02:58 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Navy guy gets yelled at for wearing kilt into work!
		
			
				
					As most of you know, I serve in the US Navy aboard a submarine.  
 One of the guys on the sub had me make him a Black Watch kilt pleated to the stripe (ok... it had the same effect... I pleated it with the seperation from blue to green centered in each pleat).  He wanted it for the same purpose most of us want kilts... to wear as often as possible.
 Anyway, he wore it into work Monday.  Everyone remarked about how nice it looked, but still razzed the guy (for being Filipino, and wearing a kilt).
 Today, he decided to wear it again.  The Chief of the Boat (AKA: COB... the senior enlisted guy on the ship) actually yelled at our kilted friend, saying things like "this joke isn't funny anymore."   The COB then went on to say "don't let me catch you wearing that here again.
 
 I ride a bicycle to work everyday, so I wear pants to work.  I vow, though, to wear a kilt to the next command function... like the command holiday party!
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                1st November 06, 03:05 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					As a retired Senior Chief, I am embarrassed by the COBs actions.  I know that most ships/boats have dress codes of what you can wear on liberty, but really....My rule, was as long at it was neat, clean, pressed, and in good taste (as in not vulgar t-shirts) then it didn't matter.
 
 I have been on ships where the officers were required to wear a sports coat on liberty, so I guess it's a ship by ship (boat by boat) thing.
 
 Still...I would think he had more important things to take care of.
 It don't mean a thing, if you aint got that swing!!'S Rioghal Mo Dhream  - a child of the mist
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                1st November 06, 03:07 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I'm evidently missing something here, but if you & your Filipino buddy are in the US Navy, don't you guys have to wear a uniform to work?   :confused: .
 Happiness? I'd settle for being less annoyed!!!"I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused." - Declan MacManus
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                                                1st November 06, 03:16 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Maybe I'm missing something here too but if you serve aboard a submarine how come you ride a bicycle to work?
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                                                1st November 06, 03:25 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by Retro Red I'm evidently missing something here, but if you & your Filipino buddy are in the US Navy, don't you guys have to wear a uniform to work?   :confused: .
 
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cessna152towser Maybe I'm missing something here too but if you serve aboard a submarine how come you ride a bicycle to work? These two things confused me to no end as well!   :confused:
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                1st November 06, 03:37 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Us sailors are a confusing bunch.  I worked on 8th Army in South Korea, (M*A*S*H), but not during that time period, and I had an Air Force Seargent!  I wonder if the Koreans could have made kilts, they made all my other clothes, but I didn't even know about kilts back then. haha
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                                                1st November 06, 03:37 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Maybe he's using something like this...  :rolleyes:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cessna152towser Maybe I'm missing something here too but if you serve aboard a submarine how come you ride a bicycle to work? 
 
   Happiness? I'd settle for being less annoyed!!!"I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused." - Declan MacManus
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                                                1st November 06, 04:25 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					The way it works today, is that sailors park their car in the parking lot, walk up the pier to the ship, go down to their "at sea" living area and change into their uniform for the day.  They stay in uniform all day during working hours.  When the ship is in port, they change into their civilian clothes at the end of the day and go home to their apartment or house.  Almost nobody stays in uniform for their off work time.
 At sea is a different matter.  It's uniform all the time then.
 
 I've got to say though, that I would have come to work just like that lad in the picture if I could (or maybe I would have never made it)
   It don't mean a thing, if you aint got that swing!!'S Rioghal Mo Dhream  - a child of the mist
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                1st November 06, 05:09 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I wonder how that will turn out. If you have problems, you might consider contacting the Diversity Manager @ PNS. The Navy has put out all kinds of stuff about diversity and how much they value it. Maybe this is where the rubber meets the road.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by BLAZN As most of you know, I serve in the US Navy aboard a submarine....I vow, though, to wear a kilt to the next command function... like the command holiday party! 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                1st November 06, 07:58 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Yes, we wear a uniform while AT work.  The guy wearing the kilt was on his way into work.  Most of us come to the sub in civilian attire and then change into our uniforms.  It's less restrictive that way... we're extremely limited in where we're allowed to go in our working uniforms.  There's a rule that precludes us from stopping at a gas station or going grocery shopping on the way home, if in a working uniform.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Retro Red I'm evidently missing something here, but if you & your Filipino buddy are in the US Navy, don't you guys have to wear a uniform to work?   :confused: .
 
 
 
	We don't LIVE on the submarine.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cessna152towser Maybe I'm missing something here too but if you serve aboard a submarine how come you ride a bicycle to work? I personally ride a bike to work for economic reasons as well as physical fitness reasons.  Economically speaking, I'm not spending out my posterior for gas, nor am I putting the wear and tear on my car.  I live so close to work that my car would never warm up completely on the trip... which is bad for the engine.
 For fitness reasons... I get a workout every day, for the most part.
 
 
 
	He gets it.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by JimB The way it works today, is that sailors park their car in the parking lot, walk up the pier to the ship, go down to their "at sea" living area and change into their uniform for the day.  They stay in uniform all day during working hours.  When the ship is in port, they change into their civilian clothes at the end of the day and go home to their apartment or house.  Almost nobody stays in uniform for their off work time.  Very true. 
 
 
	Also true.  On long deployments, we sometimes get "casual" days where we get to wear non-uniform clothes.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by JimB At sea is a different matter.  It's uniform all the time then. 
 
 
	Well, if the COB throws flack for me going to a civilian clothed function in a kilt, I'll just have to talk to the CO... or file a grievance.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Will I wonder how that will turn out. If you have problems, you might consider contacting the Diversity Manager @ PNS. The Navy has put out all kinds of stuff about diversity and how much they value it. Maybe this is where the rubber meets the road. 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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